Meltdown & Spectre potpourri

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by DrinkLyeAndDie, Jan 4, 2018.

  1. Ch3vr0n

    Ch3vr0n Translator NL & Mod

    maximus hasn't yet.
     
  2. RedFox 1

    RedFox 1 Super Moderator

    I cant find it either, but that doesn't mean it didn't update. I am going into auto updates for Asus and look
     
  3. DrinkLyeAndDie

    DrinkLyeAndDie Retired Moderator

    It may just be a staggered release. The Maximus VIII Extreme previously took longer to get newer BIOS releases than some other ASUS Z170 motherboards. This time they apparently decided to push the M8E to the front.
     
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  4. Ch3vr0n

    Ch3vr0n Translator NL & Mod

    Oh I don't doubt for a second the M8F is going to get it, just a matter of time. And ain't going to flash immediately. Going to let the M8E do the testing

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  5. RedFox 1

    RedFox 1 Super Moderator

    I am going to flash the second it’s available


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  6. DrinkLyeAndDie

    DrinkLyeAndDie Retired Moderator

    Things haven't gone to hell... yet.

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    Edit: ASUS held on to this BIOS update for 5 weeks before the official release as noted from the BIOS date.
     
    Last edited: Apr 24, 2018
  7. RedFox 1

    RedFox 1 Super Moderator

  8. DrinkLyeAndDie

    DrinkLyeAndDie Retired Moderator

    They haven't pushed it for the Maximus VIII Formula, apparently. Same goes for the Maximus VIII Hero, etc. It looks like the Maximus VIII Extreme is the first to get it this time around which could be a good thing or bad. At least I finally got the Intel ME updated since it was included in the 3801 BIOS update.

    The 3801 changelog is a bit vague but given the date I expect that it contains the "finalized" Spectre microcode update. When I say finalized I mean more like the microcode that Microsoft pushed in KB4090007.
     
  9. BrianG61UK

    BrianG61UK Well-Known Member

    My ASUS Z87-A motherboard is way too old to expect a BIOS update so I removed the BIOS chip (it was in a socket), read it into a file with a TL866CS and modified the file with a tool I found out about here, reflashed the modified BIOS into the chip with the TL866CS and put it back in the motherboard. Hey presto I have spectre variant 2 protection microcode.

    Not needed if I was running Windows 10 because the microcode is now in KB4090007 but I still run Windows 7 at the moment.
     
    Last edited: Apr 24, 2018
  10. RedFox 1

    RedFox 1 Super Moderator

    Do you have the Extreme or the Formula?
     
  11. DrinkLyeAndDie

    DrinkLyeAndDie Retired Moderator

    The Extreme. That image I posted of CPU-Z is from my system. :)
     
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  12. RedFox 1

    RedFox 1 Super Moderator

    For some odd reason I thought we had the same board, I wonder if the Extreme BIOS would be the same for the Formula, they are both basically the same board and nothing on them is different that involves the BIOS
     
  13. DrinkLyeAndDie

    DrinkLyeAndDie Retired Moderator

    I had wanted the Maximus VIII Formula when I went to build my system but it was impossible to locate the board for a sane amount of money. I don't know if they had ceased production or what. So, I instead got the Extreme which gave me built in wi-fi, etc. Far cheaper than the going price for the Formula. In the long run it was really the better choice.

    In theory I'd agree about the BIOS but I also wouldn't gamble on it. LOL
     
  14. RedFox 1

    RedFox 1 Super Moderator

    The Formula even has built in wifi. The only difference has to do with the water-cooling built in fittings.
     
  15. DrinkLyeAndDie

    DrinkLyeAndDie Retired Moderator

    For some reason I didn't think it did. Not sure why. Nonetheless, I'd expect to see the BIOS come out soon.
     
  16. DrinkLyeAndDie

    DrinkLyeAndDie Retired Moderator

    InSpectre Release #8 (2018-04-11): https://www.grc.com/inspectre.htm

    Changelog:

    Note: The release date is from earlier in April so it predates Microsoft's new release of Update to enable mitigation against Spectre, Variant 2 (KB4078407).
     
  17. BrianG61UK

    BrianG61UK Well-Known Member

  18. DrinkLyeAndDie

    DrinkLyeAndDie Retired Moderator

    I'm aware. InSpectre detects whether mitigations have been applied or not but not by which method: OS microcode vs BIOS microcode and/or not KB4090007 vs KB4078407. I was merely noting the newer Microsoft update also exists.
     
  19. BrianG61UK

    BrianG61UK Well-Known Member

    I'm pretty certain KB4078407 doesn't do anything on it's own, it just clears a flag in the registry some people might have set to tell windows not to bother with Spectre variant 2 mitigation even if it's available.
     
  20. DrinkLyeAndDie

    DrinkLyeAndDie Retired Moderator

    I agree given the information for KB4078407 on Microsoft's website. For whatever reason some sites are reporting the update is more than that.
     
    Last edited: Apr 26, 2018