PLZ see problems with clonedvd2 ? anydvd? TY DISC?

Discussion in 'CloneDVD' started by gus738, Sep 3, 2007.

  1. gus738

    gus738 Well-Known Member

    i really need help im using TY 8x dvd-r (TYG02) i think and when i backed up the movie (perfect stranger) with menus and all options, i started watching it and it started like showing green blocks .... sort of skiping,.... i need help determing whats the problem....

    anydvd 6.1.7.0

    clonedvd2 2.9.1.2

    xps series gen 2 3.19 ghz 1gb ram low process (28 tasks) what else could be useful?

    i did this movie 2 times, first time the beganing (when u first put movie) it skieped worser then it inproved on 2nd disc..... but it doesnt make sense i just burned TMNT and it came out flawlessly please help.....
     
  2. Webslinger

    Webslinger Retired Moderator

    1) Use Anydvd 6.1.7.1, and post Anydvd's status window for the original disc

    2) What percent does the quality bar in Clonedvd indicate before burning?

    3) At what speed are you burning?

    4) Are you using the latest firmware for your burner?

    5) a) Download imgburn. It's a free program: http://www.imgburn.com/index.php?act=download
    (it's also an excellent program imo)

    b) Go to Tools > Filter Driver Load Order. Click "Clipboard". Then paste the information you pasted into your clipboard into your next post (ctrl-v).
     
    Last edited: Sep 3, 2007
  3. gus738

    gus738 Well-Known Member

    thanks for fast reply....

    1)7.1 is beta isnt it? whats diffrense?

    2)on perfect stranger the quality bar is 57% (dvd5)

    3)dont know what speed but i dont alter settings (maybe max speed?)

    4) i dont think i have latest version but maybe 1 before.... so it was recent say maybe 1yr or less

    5) why do i need img burn? i know what it is but i bought clonedvd&anydvd for a reason...

    b or 6? lol and tools? i have win xp home

    i have 2 drives.... the one i use as a reader is JLMS DVD-ROM XJ-HD166 " JLMS XJ-HD166 " firmware : DD06

    and my dvd burner is : DVDRW IDE 16X firmware : A07F'

    so what are the main possible reasons for this problem movie piexlation cuz thats what it is disc > TAYIO YOUDEN .... DVD is very mint maybe 1 small scracthy.... last movie TMNT came out flawless.... so what could it be?
     
    Last edited: Sep 3, 2007
  4. Webslinger

    Webslinger Retired Moderator


    "- New (DVD): Added support for new versions of the SONY Arccos protection
    to the option to remove "Protection based on unreadable Sectors", e.g.
    "Blades of Glory" R1, US
    Note: This new protection is supported by CloneDVD, CloneCD, DVDShrink
    and Nero Recode without using the AnyDVD ripper!
    - New (Blu-ray): Support for new titles
    - Fix (DVD): False positive detection of Arccos on some unprotected titles
    - Fix: Compatibility problem with Cruzer U3 memory stick
    - Some minor fixes and improvements
    - Updated languages"

    The quality bar is too low. I'd recommend splitting the movie across two discs.

    You should

    Bad idea. Try 6x.

    Update to the latest version.

    Because Imgburn has a free tool that displays your filters. Clonedvd doesn't.

    b


    Now, this time, follow my instructions, and post your filters--or find someone else to help you if you're going to do nothing but argue.
     
    Last edited: Sep 3, 2007
  5. gus738

    gus738 Well-Known Member

    what does this mean?

    this is actually nice quality 8) i usualy get red zone which is 44% i belive

    burning speed or reading speed? if its burning then im doing 8x what its described on TY (G02)


    i always used to do 8x

    actually i checked it last night and this is the latest their is!....

    bottom line i stil havnt figured it out why its making the movies look pixelated and show green blocks/squares

    could it be blanks (again tayio youden flawless conditions)

    dvd drives / computer or its software?

    ....... im out of ideals!!!! :doh: PLEASE HELP! thanks in advance:agree::D
     
  6. gus738

    gus738 Well-Known Member

    james i need your help!!! : i have anydvd 6.1.7.0 and clonedvd2 2.9.1.2 and my problem is that my backups (full with menus) Perfect stranger and Disturbia come out with flaws such as Green blocks / pixelations!

    here is my thread that explains most things.... http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=7369

    updated latest possible drivers

    using Tayio Youden (TYG02) 8x dvd-r

    im out of ideals
     
  7. Webslinger

    Webslinger Retired Moderator

    Either follow my instructions this time--or this will be the last time I try to help you.

    1. Update to Anydvd 6.1.7.1
    click http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=7343

    2. Update your burner's firmware:
    click http://forum.slysoft.com/showpost.php?p=12794&postcount=10

    3. Post Anydvd's status screen with the original disc:
    see step 8 from http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=393

    4. Try a 6x burn speed.

    5. Are you using Taiyo Yuden Premiums--or Taiyo Yuden Value lines?

    6. a) Download imgburn. It's a free program: http://www.imgburn.com/index.php?act=download
    (it's also an excellent program imo)

    b) Go to Tools > Filter Driver Load Order. Click "Clipboard". Then paste the information you pasted into your clipboard into your next post (ctrl-v).

    7. Do your backups play fine in your computer? How about in another standalone dvd player?

    Are you joking? I can see how bad that is on a 20" monitor.

    It means you don't need to right click on the fox icon on your toolbar and select "rip video-dvd to harddisk" before using Clonedvd.

    Bottom line is I don't know unless you start answering questions (could be your blank media choice; could be your burner is dying; could be the compression level is too high/quality bar is too low; could be your standalone dvd player is dying; could be a protection on the original disc; could be a lot of things)
     
    Last edited: Sep 4, 2007
  8. Webslinger

    Webslinger Retired Moderator

    Do not create/post in multiple threads about the exact same issue. :policeman:
     
  9. gus738

    gus738 Well-Known Member

    webslinger i aprciate your help but i just answerd regarding to your post, My firmware is the latest it could be (checked google and manafacture website and even the rebadged name!)

    ok ill download .7.1 but i'v never done betas should i be consern?

    again i did the latest i could possibliy do but here are my drives

    reader : JLMS DVD-ROM XJ-HD166 " JLMS XJ-HD166 " firmware : DD06

    burner : DVDRW IDE 16X firmware : A07F'


    3. Post Anydvd's status screen with the original disc:
    see step 8 from http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=393

    4. Try a 6x burn speed.

    Preimum line!

    6. a) Download imgburn. It's a free program: http://www.imgburn.com/index.php?act=download
    (it's also an excellent program imo)

    HOW do i do this? i have winxp home and i dont know how to do it....

    im not cosern how bad the quality is even though i know it is, but im consern about the flaws i see such as green blocks/pixelation, Making the movie Unwatchable!



    It means you don't need to right click on the fox icon on your toolbar and select "rip video-dvd to harddisk" before using Clonedvd
     
  10. Webslinger

    Webslinger Retired Moderator

    No. Nothing to worry about.


    Can you please do that for me? I've only asked 3 times now.
    "Click the red fox icon in your system tray. Select "status" on the left hand side of your screen. With the Original disc inserted in your computer, click the appropriate drive tab letter (the drive containing the disc) in Anydvd. In the window below the drive letter, copy and paste the information Anydvd gives you into your post asking for help. If you made a backup, do this step for both the original disc and the backup, please."


    Click the link. Download imgburn, and install it. It works with XP home edition.
    Then, in imgburn, Go to Tools > Filter Driver Load Order. Click "Clipboard". Then paste the information you pasted into your clipboard into your next post (ctrl-v).

    1) Does the backup play fine in your computer?
    2)Does the backup play fine in a standalone dvd player?
    3) Does the original disc play fine in your computer?
    4) Does the original disc play fine in your standalone dvd player?
     
    Last edited: Sep 4, 2007
  11. gus738

    gus738 Well-Known Member

    ok thanks


    do i post screenshot for the orginal movies? or both the orginas and copys?

    and do you want me to post them before updating to beta version?





    i' arldy d/l it but theirs not much info when i click on copy clipboard


    like i said i have these greenblocks/pixelation both on my pc and my 360 and my toshiba dvd player...

    i burned them twice and the 2nd batch came out better but still piexlated...
     
  12. Webslinger

    Webslinger Retired Moderator

    Update to Anydvd 6.1.7.1. Then post the status screen.
    I don't need screenshots. Here's an example of what I want:

    "The Lookout
    Summary for drive D: (AnyDVD 6.1.7.0)
    Drive (Hardware) Region: 1

    Media is a DVD.
    Booktype: dvd-rom (version 1), Layers: 2 (opposite)
    Size of first Layer: 1731600 sectors (3382 MBytes)
    Total size: 3135288 sectors (6123 MBytes)

    Video DVD (or CD) label: LOO0NNW1
    Media is CSS protected!
    Video Standard: NTSC
    Media is locked to region(s): 1!

    RCE protection not found.
    DVD structure appears to be correct.
    Found & removed structural copy protection (Arccos, Puppetlock)!
    Autorun not found on Video DVD.
    Found & removed 2 bad sector protections!
    Emulating RPC-2 drive with region 1!"

    Now do that for the original disc and the backup using Anydvd 6.1.7.1. "Click the red fox icon in your system tray. Select "status" on the left hand side of your screen. With the Original disc inserted in your computer, click the appropriate drive tab letter (the drive containing the disc) in Anydvd. In the window below the drive letter, copy and paste the information Anydvd gives you into your post asking for help. If you made a backup, do this step for both the original disc and the backup, please."



    Run imgburn. Go to the Tools menu in imgburn. Select "Filter Driver Load Order". Click the "Clipboard" button. Then paste the information you pasted into your clipboard into your next post (type "ctrl" and "v" at the same time on your keyboard when replying here; click in the white space, and hold down the cntrl and v keys).



    And I'm guessing the originals don't have that problem?

    1. Have you considered the possibility that the quality level (listed in Clonedvd) is too low? Try splitting the video across two discs using the scissor tool in Clonedvd.

    2. It's also possible that you came across some bad Taiyo Yuden 8x premiums (but that's pretty rare). Try some Verbatims.

    3. It's possible this is some weird protection issue (outside of region 1), but since you seem to refuse to post the Anydvd status screen, I really have no idea.

    4. It's possible your burner is slowly dying. Try another burner--or try that burner in another computer.
     
    Last edited: Sep 4, 2007
  13. gus738

    gus738 Well-Known Member

    thanks agian webslinger!!! :D here is my status window> Original movies

    Summary for drive E: (AnyDVD 6.1.7.1)
    JLMS DVD-ROM XJ-HD166 DD06
    Drive (Hardware) Region: 1

    Media is a DVD.
    Booktype: dvd-rom (version 1), Layers: 2 (opposite)
    Size of first Layer: 1753120 sectors (3424 MBytes)
    Total size: 3469072 sectors (6775 MBytes)

    Video DVD (or CD) label: Perfect Stranger
    Media is CSS protected!
    Video Standard: NTSC
    Media is locked to region(s): 1!

    DVD structure appears to be correct.
    Structural copy protection not found.
    Bad sector protection not found.

    =================================


    Summary for drive E: (AnyDVD 6.1.7.1)
    JLMS DVD-ROM XJ-HD166 DD06
    Drive (Hardware) Region: 1

    Media is a DVD.
    Booktype: dvd-rom (version 1), Layers: 2 (opposite)
    Size of first Layer: 2073568 sectors (4049 MBytes)
    Total size: 4147125 sectors (8099 MBytes)

    Video DVD (or CD) label: DISTURBIA_WS
    Media is CSS protected!
    Video Standard: NTSC
    Media is locked to region(s): 1 4!

    DVD structure appears to be correct.
    Structural copy protection not found.
    Bad sector protection not found.


    iduuno i havnt tried watching the new ones that i bought....

    No the quality level is always lower and my movies come out flawless , these 2 movies (perfect stranger & disturbia are the only expcetions....

    im getting the same feeling, but this is the same batch that i did my earlier movies and most recent TMNT and it came out FLAWLESS, would it be possible that within a stack only a few could be bad?

    im sorry for not giving you the info and i feel bad cuz you were tyring 2 help me.....

    i just did TMNT like 3 days ago ....



    Here is the CLIPBOARD info from imgburn

    ===============================================
    Filter Driver Load Order - ImgBurn v2.3.2.0
    ===============================================

    Upper Device Filter: redbook
    Upper Class Filter: Cdralw2k
    Device: CD/DVD-ROM Device
    Lower Class Filter: Cdr4_xp
    Lower Class Filter: MXLW2K
    Lower Class Filter: AFS2K
    Lower Class Filter: PxHelp20
    Lower Class Filter: ElbyDelay
    Lower Class Filter: Afc
    Lower Class Filter: AnyDVD
    Lower Device Filter: imapi

    Filter Name: redbook
    File Name: C:\WINDOWS\System32\DRIVERS\redbook.sys
    File Version: 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
    File Description: Redbook Audio Filter Driver
    Product Name: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
    Product Version: 5.1.2600.2180
    Company Name: Microsoft Corporation
    Copyright: © Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

    Filter Name: Cdralw2k
    File Name: C:\WINDOWS\system32\Drivers\Cdralw2k.sys
    File Version: 8.0.0.212
    File Description: CDRAL Place Holder Driver (see PxHelp)
    Product Name: Drag-to-Disc
    Product Version: 8.0.0.212
    Company Name: Sonic Solutions
    Copyright: Copyright (c) 1994-2005 Sonic Solutions

    Filter Name: Cdr4_xp
    File Name: C:\WINDOWS\system32\Drivers\Cdr4_xp.sys
    File Version: 8.0.0.212
    File Description: CDR4 CD and DVD Place Holder Driver (see PxHelp)
    Product Name: Drag-to-Disc
    Product Version: 8.0.0.212
    Company Name: Sonic Solutions
    Copyright: Copyright (c) 1994-2005 Sonic Solutions

    Filter Name: MXLW2K
    File Name: C:\WINDOWS\system32\Drivers\MXLW2K.sys
    File Version: 1.1.0.121
    File Description: MusicMatch Access Layer KMD
    Product Name: MusicMatch Access Layer
    Product Version: 1.1.0.121
    Company Name: MusicMatch, Inc.
    Copyright: Copyright © 2000 MusicMatch, Inc.

    Filter Name: AFS2K
    File Name: C:\WINDOWS\system32\Drivers\AFS2K.sys
    File Version: 3.1.20.1064 [3.1.20.0]
    File Description: Audio File System
    Product Name: AFS
    Product Version: 3.1.20.7(1064) [3.1.20.0]
    Company Name: Oak Technology Inc.
    Copyright: Copyright (C) Oak Technology Inc.

    Filter Name: PxHelp20
    File Name: C:\WINDOWS\System32\Drivers\PxHelp20.sys
    File Version: 3.00.43J [3.0.43.9]
    File Description: Px Engine Device Driver for Windows 2000/XP
    Product Name: PxHelp20
    Product Version: [2.0.0.0]
    Company Name: Sonic Solutions
    Copyright: Copyright © Sonic Solutions

    Filter Name: ElbyDelay
    File Name: C:\WINDOWS\System32\Drivers\ElbyDelay.sys
    File Version: 5, 1, 0, 1 [5.1.0.1]
    File Description: Elby Delay Lower Filter Driver
    Product Name: CDRTools
    Product Version: 5, 1, 0, 1 [5.1.0.1]
    Company Name: Elaborate Bytes AG
    Copyright: Copyright (C) 2003 - 2006 Elaborate Bytes AG

    Filter Name: Afc
    File Name: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\Afc.sys
    File Version: 1, 0, 0, 2 [1.0.0.2]
    File Description: Arcsoft(R) ASPI Shell
    Product Name: Arcsoft(R) ASPI Shell
    Product Version: 1, 0, 0, 2 [1.0.0.2]
    Company Name: Arcsoft, Inc.
    Copyright: (C) Arcsoft, Inc. 1999-2005. All rights reserved.

    Filter Name: AnyDVD
    File Name: C:\WINDOWS\System32\Drivers\AnyDVD.sys
    File Version: 6.1.7.1
    File Description: AnyDVD Filter Driver
    Product Name: AnyDVD
    Product Version: 6.1.7.1
    Company Name: SlySoft, Inc.
    Copyright: Copyright 2002 - 2007 SlySoft, Inc.

    Filter Name: imapi
    File Name: C:\WINDOWS\System32\DRIVERS\imapi.sys
    File Version: 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
    File Description: IMAPI Kernel Driver
    Product Name: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
    Product Version: 5.1.2600.2180
    Company Name: Microsoft Corporation
    Copyright: © Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
     
    Last edited: Sep 4, 2007
  14. Webslinger

    Webslinger Retired Moderator

    There's nothing special about the protection on either of these discs.


    Try watching them.


    Yes, that is possible.

    Thank you for finally providing the information I requested.


    Bad bad bad. Drag to disc is packet writing software. Uninstall it. Packet writing software is terrible and known to cause conflicts with other programs, including Slysoft software. If you want drag and drop functionality, then use dvd-ram instead, which is more stable.


    Bad bad bad. Drag to disc is packet writing software. Uninstall it. Packet writing software is terrible and known to cause conflicts with other programs, including Slysoft software. If you want drag and drop functionality, then use dvd-ram instead, which is more stable.

    There's a known clonflict with Musicmatch and Clonedvd. I would recommend uninstalling it. click http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=1293

    There's also a known issue with Arcsoft Photo impressions or anything that installs afc.sys

    click http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=1307 and read #7



    You've got a lot of known software on your system that conflicts with Slysoft software and Clonedvd:

    1. Dragtodisc
    2. Musicmatch
    3. Arcsoft

    I recommend uninstalling all three programs. Then check to ensure the drivers I quoted no longer appear in your filters

    OR

    a) run imgburn
    b)Go to "Tools"-->"Filter Drive Load Order"
    c) Select " MXLW2K", "Cdralw2k", "Cdr4_xp" and "Afc"; select "remove selected filter" for all three. Then click "ok" and reboot.
    Keep in mind whatever program(s) installed those filters will no longer function properly
     
  15. DrinkLyeAndDie

    DrinkLyeAndDie Retired Moderator

    I completely agree with Webslinger's comments. I have a few comments/questions of my own:

    (1) One thing I haven't seen addressed is what does the movie look like viewed from the HDD before it is burned with CloneDVD2? Is there no pixellation or green blocks?

    (2) If your burner handles DVD+R discs I would, personally, burn to DVD+R and not DVD-R discs even with the annoyance of bitsetting.

    (3) Anything below around 70-75% quality becomes noticeable, IMHO. A computer monitor doesn't always look the same as a TV screen and as the size of the screen increases the lost quality becomes far more noticeable. I would never compress a movie to 57% let alone in the 40% range with CloneDVD2, Nero Recode, DVD Shrink or any other transcoding ripper. I'd remove content from the disc to increase quality, use DVD Rebuilder [which is not a transcoder] to reduce the size rather than transcoding, or use a DVD+R DL instead of a single layer DVD+R/DVD-R.

    (4) I don't care what a DVD's speed rating is, I never ever burn at the maximum speed setting in CloneDVD2 and I never burn at the maximum rating speed of a DVD. If I burn with 16x rated DVDs then I usually burn at 8x and sometimes 12x and not 16x or 18x. If I am burning 8x rated DVDs then I burn at 6x but never 8x.
     
  16. gus738

    gus738 Well-Known Member

     
    Last edited by a moderator: Sep 5, 2007
  17. Webslinger

    Webslinger Retired Moderator

    If the source material is pixellated and green, then the backup will be as well. So troubleshooting is pretty pointless if the source material also displays the same problems.

    As for everything else you typed, if you don't want to follow the instructions we gave you, then good luck. It doesn't matter whether you believe you uninstalled those programs; the drivers are still running on your system, regardless. It doesn't matter whether you believe Arcsoft won't cause any issues; it has on other systems (it might be causing problems on yours). It would be a good idea to try what we stated.
     
    Last edited: Sep 5, 2007
  18. gus738

    gus738 Well-Known Member

    how do i uninstall something that i dont see in the add/remove programs? as far as the originals being pixelated i never said they were......
     
  19. Webslinger

    Webslinger Retired Moderator

    I already explained what to do earlier:

    "a) run imgburn
    b)Go to "Tools"-->"Filter Drive Load Order"
    c) Select " MXLW2K", "Cdralw2k", "Cdr4_xp" and "Afc"; select "remove selected filter" for all four. Then click "ok" and reboot.
    Keep in mind whatever program(s) installed those filters will no longer function properly
    "

    You didn't say they weren't either. You said you never watched them, so you don't know. You're burning files. Playback the files. Really, this is all very pointless if the originals that you are burning also exhibit the same problems.
     
    Last edited: Sep 5, 2007
  20. gus738

    gus738 Well-Known Member

    ok i removed i think the required filters and ill be trying the movies again, and i fast foward perfect stranger and i got no piexlation.....

    ===============================================
    Filter Driver Load Order - ImgBurn v2.3.2.0
    ===============================================

    Upper Device Filter: redbook
    Upper Class Filter: [None Found]
    Device: CD/DVD-ROM Device
    Lower Class Filter: AFS2K
    Lower Class Filter: PxHelp20
    Lower Class Filter: ElbyDelay
    Lower Class Filter: Afc
    Lower Class Filter: AnyDVD
    Lower Device Filter: imapi

    Filter Name: redbook
    File Name: C:\WINDOWS\System32\DRIVERS\redbook.sys
    File Version: 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
    File Description: Redbook Audio Filter Driver
    Product Name: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
    Product Version: 5.1.2600.2180
    Company Name: Microsoft Corporation
    Copyright: © Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

    Filter Name: AFS2K
    File Name: C:\WINDOWS\system32\Drivers\AFS2K.sys
    File Version: 3.1.20.1064 [3.1.20.0]
    File Description: Audio File System
    Product Name: AFS
    Product Version: 3.1.20.7(1064) [3.1.20.0]
    Company Name: Oak Technology Inc.
    Copyright: Copyright (C) Oak Technology Inc.

    Filter Name: PxHelp20
    File Name: C:\WINDOWS\System32\Drivers\PxHelp20.sys
    File Version: 3.00.43J [3.0.43.9]
    File Description: Px Engine Device Driver for Windows 2000/XP
    Product Name: PxHelp20
    Product Version: [2.0.0.0]
    Company Name: Sonic Solutions
    Copyright: Copyright © Sonic Solutions

    Filter Name: ElbyDelay
    File Name: C:\WINDOWS\System32\Drivers\ElbyDelay.sys
    File Version: 5, 1, 0, 1 [5.1.0.1]
    File Description: Elby Delay Lower Filter Driver
    Product Name: CDRTools
    Product Version: 5, 1, 0, 1 [5.1.0.1]
    Company Name: Elaborate Bytes AG
    Copyright: Copyright (C) 2003 - 2006 Elaborate Bytes AG

    Filter Name: Afc
    File Name: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\Afc.sys
    File Version: 1, 0, 0, 2 [1.0.0.2]
    File Description: Arcsoft(R) ASPI Shell
    Product Name: Arcsoft(R) ASPI Shell
    Product Version: 1, 0, 0, 2 [1.0.0.2]
    Company Name: Arcsoft, Inc.
    Copyright: (C) Arcsoft, Inc. 1999-2005. All rights reserved.

    Filter Name: AnyDVD
    File Name: C:\WINDOWS\System32\Drivers\AnyDVD.sys
    File Version: 6.1.7.1
    File Description: AnyDVD Filter Driver
    Product Name: AnyDVD
    Product Version: 6.1.7.1
    Company Name: SlySoft, Inc.
    Copyright: Copyright 2002 - 2007 SlySoft, Inc.

    Filter Name: imapi
    File Name: C:\WINDOWS\System32\DRIVERS\imapi.sys
    File Version: 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
    File Description: IMAPI Kernel Driver
    Product Name: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
    Product Version: 5.1.2600.2180
    Company Name: Microsoft Corporation
    Copyright: © Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.