So someone on Doom9 claims that if you have a linux box with WINE you can run Smart Ripper under it and it'll rip the full disc with no problems at all. I haven't tried this as I don't have a linux box here at home that I can try it on, but, if this works that's pretty sweet. I have a semi-working full back up myself made under windows using DVD Decrypter, but, at the moment it still has one bug that I can't for the life of me seem to fix. All the extras and menu are working, but, when the main movie is played from the menu it skips the first section of the movie. I'm still trying to figure out how to get it to play from the beginning and then I'll have a flawless backup. Yes, you read that right...DVD Decrypter with absolutely NO AnyDVD intervention at all. But, since the method doesn't appear to work very well I'm not going to bother posting it. Just use DVD Decrypter or Smart Ripper to make a movie only backup for now and you'll be fine.