Autostart will not work!

Discussion in 'AnyDVD HD (DVD issues)' started by 4hams, Mar 10, 2007.

  1. 4hams

    4hams Member

    Hey folks I have been using ANYDVD for a couple of years and have always loved the program... I have also recomended it to many on the net.

    I have installed Vista Ultimate 3 times now and the Autostart function will not work! It is listed in the ANYDVD settings and it is listed in the Startup programs within msconfig???

    This is really beggining to irritate me. :(

    Anyone else having such a problem and or has anyone been able to solve this problem?

    Thanks! :)
     
  2. Webslinger

    Webslinger Retired Moderator

  3. 4hams

    4hams Member

    Thanks Webslinger I'll have a look.
     
  4. zebadee

    zebadee Well-Known Member

    Hi :)
    Fancy finding you here.
    1st You can use the password approach. Because of how windows Vista loads certain programs. HD activity needs to settle before launching Desktop. The easiest way to allow this is by having to logon & taking your time loggin on.
    2nd Is to disable UAC. This depending on programs installed, can lead to problems long term.
    Of course you can just lauch manually.
    As there's no real fault with AnyDVD or Vista (Just the launching setup. Which is why not all users get the same scenario). The s/w solution may well be a long time coming.
     
  5. 4hams

    4hams Member

    Ya this is the first problem with the program in over 2 years of use...
    Thanks zebadee!
    It appears that the program is being blocked from starting by windows Defender and the reason is that the driver is not Digitally signed?

    I guess this means everyone using Vista Ultimate is having the same issue?
     
  6. zebadee

    zebadee Well-Known Member

    Hi :)
    4hams
    Yes you're right. About the signing bit. Vista loads signed stuff 1st, then the others. The loggin on gives time for these drivers to be loaded before the launch of desktop.
    If desktop launches 1st then some drivers do not fully load. Hence AnyDVD is one such program. For the time being that is.
     
  7. James

    James Redfox Development Team Staff Member

  8. zebadee

    zebadee Well-Known Member

    Hi :)
    James et al.
    Firstly, the 1st link of Webslingers mentions ZoneAlarm. ZoneAlarm is not Vista ready & in itself can cause problems.
    Secondly SlySoft referred to their drivers being signed for Vista. This appears not to be the case.
    Windows Vista uses what they call SuperFetch technology. This means if there's no logging on required the Desktop is launched before unsigned drivers are loaded. This in turn allows Windows Defender to halt the starup processes.
    The answer in the short term is to create a logon.
    If you disable UAC or diable Windows Defender. The result is similar i.e. AnyDVD will load (autostart).
    If the driver was signed it would load during the SuperFetch process eliminating the problem.
    So I stand by premise that neither program is flawed as such.
    SlySoft get their drivers signed or users find ways around problem.
    N.B. If AnyDVD is the only program (or there's only very few) to be loaded then this can happen in the SuperFetched load time.
    This is why there's a variation on those who have no problem & those who do.
     
  9. Webslinger

    Webslinger Retired Moderator

    Actually, the only reason I posted the first link was to show there's a sticky. The very first thing in that sticky says:

    "If you're using Vista, read this (UAC = User Account Control):
    http://forum.slysoft.com/showpost.php?p=11244&postcount=9"
     
  10. James

    James Redfox Development Team Staff Member

    Sigh. They are, otherwise AnyDVD wouldn't work on Vista64. AnyDVD's driver is loaded a long time before the login takes place, it has nothing to do with AnyDVD not starting.
     
  11. zebadee

    zebadee Well-Known Member

    Hi :)
    Yes I know Master Webslinger:bowdown: , I did not intend to imply that the link was inappropriate. But that at present ZoneAlarm & Vista don't get on.:D
     
  12. Webslinger

    Webslinger Retired Moderator

    Oh, I just meant I didn't post the link because of Zonealarm. Errr . . . nm :D
     
  13. zebadee

    zebadee Well-Known Member

    Hi :)
    Well according to my PC Vista Ultimate 32 bit . AnyDVD drivers 'NOTSIGNED'.
    Note in left hand column says 'Not yet classified'.
    If there's a login then AnyDVD driver is loaded. I have done this. Set a requirement to logon. Merely so AnyDVD does 'autostart'.

    [​IMG]
     
  14. zebadee

    zebadee Well-Known Member

    Hi :)
    Thought I'd post this showing PCTools Firewall. Note the difference in the signing area & the classification.


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  15. Webslinger

    Webslinger Retired Moderator

    Hmm . . .

    What does it say under Vista 64?
     
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  16. zebadee

    zebadee Well-Known Member

    Hi :)
    Webslinger you may have a point. I have been playing around with this 'problem'.
    As I understand it (although my PCs Vista is 32 bit, I have access to 64 bit) the program as James says should not load at all if program not signed.
    However this then is a problem & not of Slysofts or Vista as such but Windows Defender.(I know this is still Microsoft's area).
    The login has the affect of buying time & allowing AnyDVD to load before Windows Defender takes over.
    It does appear the Defender is the common factor here.
    Disabling UAC means that Defenders control over these programs is over ridden too.
     
  17. zebadee

    zebadee Well-Known Member

    Hi :)
    My experience the same.
    But if Defender is at fault it would. Wouldn't it.:D
     
  18. zebadee

    zebadee Well-Known Member

    Hi :)
    Thought I'd include this as it shows a program with signed drivers but still not classified.


    [​IMG]
     
  19. Webslinger

    Webslinger Retired Moderator

    If so, then this would imply there's a bug in Windows Defender, no?

    By the way, I know in betas of Vista it was possible to disable or circumvent the signed driver requirement.
    I have no idea if it's still possible.
     
    Last edited: Mar 10, 2007
  20. zebadee

    zebadee Well-Known Member

    Hi :)
    Yes I concede that or least a problem about how they update.
    My initial post though said that I did not believe there to be a bug as such in relation to Slysoft or Vista. I still don't. If that were the case it wouldn't be so easy to work around.