If you think about it the blu-ray burner copies the disc bit by bit as data and not as Video/audio, so the water mark should be there right? So where did it go?
Here is my theory: I think this water mark thing is a none sense, and I think they are recording the original blu-ray in an unusual manner that only their recorders and cinavia players knows it and I mean by that is they are probably using some sort of holographic engraving / barcoding or additional spiral tracks that the normal blu-ray player/burner cannot reach to read, I can back my theory as follows:
1- We know that some old blu-ray players don't have cinavia even with the latest firmware right? that's because they don't have that mechanism, and the ones were cinavia enabled by FW they did have the mechanism but it wasn't functional yet.
2- This is Important: Blu-ray players with cinavia flag your BD-R's BD-ISO, BDMV, MKV ...etc. not because cinavia coding cannot be carried over to a bd-r, a disc image or a file but because it was never there in the first place, it is somewhere else on the the original disc, So you have to use the physical disc or it will flag the BD-R, BD-ISO, BDMV, movie file as long as it has the correct audio stream for them to detect as such movie title that you are playing and not your home video, more detection schemes will follow such as frames picture matching.
3- This is an alternative to 2: If the theory of an additional printed tracks or holograph is a bullshit as some of you may already think is, than I guess cinavia enabled blu-ray just detect that you are playing BD-ISO, file, BDMV, BD-R and not BD-ROM, so it reads the audio track it knows it's a such movie therefore you cannot play it.
To summarize: The audio track is used for identifying the movie title only and has no water mark at all, Some of the hackers found a way to fool the cinavia enabled player to think this audio track is for my birthday party and not for a movie but that alters the quality of the audio. But like I said more detection schemes will follow and time will tell.
So how this cinavia can be defeated then?:
-If scenario 2 true than a blank BD-R's and blu-ray burners will have the capability to record the additional info from the original disc, This probably will never be possible.
-If scenario 3 true than blank media should be made to be detected as BD-ROM's instead of BD-R's, So I can start using my PS3 again!!
Here is my theory: I think this water mark thing is a none sense, and I think they are recording the original blu-ray in an unusual manner that only their recorders and cinavia players knows it and I mean by that is they are probably using some sort of holographic engraving / barcoding or additional spiral tracks that the normal blu-ray player/burner cannot reach to read, I can back my theory as follows:
1- We know that some old blu-ray players don't have cinavia even with the latest firmware right? that's because they don't have that mechanism, and the ones were cinavia enabled by FW they did have the mechanism but it wasn't functional yet.
2- This is Important: Blu-ray players with cinavia flag your BD-R's BD-ISO, BDMV, MKV ...etc. not because cinavia coding cannot be carried over to a bd-r, a disc image or a file but because it was never there in the first place, it is somewhere else on the the original disc, So you have to use the physical disc or it will flag the BD-R, BD-ISO, BDMV, movie file as long as it has the correct audio stream for them to detect as such movie title that you are playing and not your home video, more detection schemes will follow such as frames picture matching.
3- This is an alternative to 2: If the theory of an additional printed tracks or holograph is a bullshit as some of you may already think is, than I guess cinavia enabled blu-ray just detect that you are playing BD-ISO, file, BDMV, BD-R and not BD-ROM, so it reads the audio track it knows it's a such movie therefore you cannot play it.
To summarize: The audio track is used for identifying the movie title only and has no water mark at all, Some of the hackers found a way to fool the cinavia enabled player to think this audio track is for my birthday party and not for a movie but that alters the quality of the audio. But like I said more detection schemes will follow and time will tell.
So how this cinavia can be defeated then?:
-If scenario 2 true than a blank BD-R's and blu-ray burners will have the capability to record the additional info from the original disc, This probably will never be possible.
-If scenario 3 true than blank media should be made to be detected as BD-ROM's instead of BD-R's, So I can start using my PS3 again!!
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