Stranger Than Fiction

Discussion in 'AnyDVD HD (DVD issues)' started by G-Omaha, Feb 28, 2007.

  1. G-Omaha

    G-Omaha Well-Known Member

    Strange as it may seam, this is another Sony production that AnyDvd appears to have problem with. Back to using the old method because Clone just doesn't meet my expectation even though I recently purchased it.

    It appears as if more and more of Sony Productions are out-smarting SlySoft.
     
  2. rolling56

    rolling56 Well-Known Member

    I didn't have any problem with R-1 WS movie only
     
  3. G-Omaha

    G-Omaha Well-Known Member

    I am trying to use DVD-Shrink for the entire movie. AnyDVD specs indicate this is possible (and had bee the case until recently)

    Specs Quoted from Product Page "Works with all DVD copying, such as CloneDVD, and all DVD player software"

    Guess it aint so - no more.....
     
  4. Coaster

    Coaster Well-Known Member

    @ G-Omaha,

    It would be helpful if you explained exactly what your problem is with AnyDVD and Stranger Than Fiction commercial DVD Movie Title.

    If in fact you believe that the Stranger Than Fiction commercial DVD Movie Title has a variant copy protection scheme that AnyDVD cannot handle suggest reviewing the AnyDVD Forum Sticky titled “Found a new protection AnyDVD can't handle? Send the .Ifo files to Slysoft!” and send the .IFO files to SlySoft so that they can analyze these files and if necessary release an update improvement to the AnyDVD software program.

    http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=330

    Regards,
    Coaster
     
  5. rolling56

    rolling56 Well-Known Member

    Maybe because Shrink is not supported anymore? Come on now it's been years geeeeeez.
     
  6. G-Omaha

    G-Omaha Well-Known Member


    Since writing this a few moments ago, I see that another poster has already provided the "screen prints". I am a bit leery about sending files to somone that I don't really know that has my "fingerprints" all over it. It appears to be the same type of "thing" that SAW-III and others have in the last month or so..

    Back to Ripit4me... I guess.
     
  7. G-Omaha

    G-Omaha Well-Known Member

    It is still probably the most used "Shrinker" utility... even if the "decryption" part of it is outdated. I would assume that most non SlySoft utilites will also not work - and they are supported...(yet, once again, they do not decrypt - that's why we purchased AnyDVD - to provide that function invisiably"..
     
  8. stealth_mf

    stealth_mf New Member

    I backed up Stranger Than Fiction and Saw3 easily using Shrink 3.2. Just by following the instructions in the sticky. Right click ANYDVD icon and select rip video to harddisk. 8)
     
  9. G-Omaha

    G-Omaha Well-Known Member

    Did you do this for the entire disk or just the main movie??
     
  10. rolling56

    rolling56 Well-Known Member

    Well instead of using FREE stuff maybe it's time you paid for a good program (CloneDVD2 maybe) and rip it with that and then run Shrink;)
     
  11. rolling56

    rolling56 Well-Known Member

    Or just drag it out of Exploder to Desktop ;) But it still doesn't do a good of a job as CloneDVD2.
     
  12. G-Omaha

    G-Omaha Well-Known Member

    I believe that you didn't read my initial post as I did indicate that I have purchased that product, as well as most of the other stuff sold by SlySoft. I also indicated that Shrink will not run on the "Stuff" generated by Clone.

    I have very few "free" stuff that I use, and limit these to those choice pieces of software that are "Priceless"....

    Quality - not price is the goal. Now speed is the seconday goal as Ripit4Me + Associated utilities (including Shrink) will provide the quality; however, takes a long time to execute.
     
  13. Clams

    Clams Well-Known Member

    The problem remains the same as it has since SAW-3.

    As I understand it, from reading other boards and my own experience, Sony has introduced an overwhelming amount of unreferenced titles and/or bogus title sets to the DVDs, all in the name of COPY PROTECTION. Once AnyDVD has done what it deems to be "it's job"... this newer form of COPY PROTECTION remains. The result is that Shrink still horks up a lung when it sees these new DVD's, and Nero Recode *almost* fails with them as well.
    In the mean time DVDFab (the free version) takes about 45 seconds to sort it all out, and present a breakdown of the "real" DVD to the end-user to rip as he sees fit, and this MINUS all the bogus titles. <sigh>

    I remain hopefull that AnyDVD will soon sort this out. The more cynical amongst us, are *sure* this won't be sorted out until the targeted amounts of CloneDVD2 are sold. <sigh>

    -W
     
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  14. rolling56

    rolling56 Well-Known Member

    Well your post count is higher than mine so i guess you know it all.

    I had no problems with AnyDVD 6.1.2.5 and CloneDVD2 2.9.0.3 R-1 WS!!!!!

    If it doesn't work with the programs you used maybe you need a disc replacement ;)

    Maybe what i suggested hasn't sunk in your head either............
     
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  15. stealth_mf

    stealth_mf New Member

    Just the main movie. This is all I truly want. Occasionally Ill record deleted scenes or such. What are you trying to get?
     
  16. rolling56

    rolling56 Well-Known Member

    There's so many problems with this title i've read. I guess there's a lot of bad originals?
    I've seen posts where they don't even play! Maybe they have Autorun on :D
     
  17. Whisperer

    Whisperer Well-Known Member

    Ok, we know that Shrink can't handle new structural protections correct? But many like Shrink for it's "deep analysis" superior compression quality. Understandable right? But Slysoft can't continue divert resources to be responsible for supporting orphan software that is not updated? Understandable right? AnyDVD's main purpose is to decrypt CSS encryptions and they have no intention of "bloating" it up to include full ripping functions. It is a tiny driver, not a ripping program. The ability to unscramble purposely authored, messed up titleset structural protections is dealing with a different form of protection than CSS decryption. Unscrabbling structural protections is the job of the ripping program. But Shrink users have a cult-love for their product and want to keep using their beloved Shrink without being chastized for their desires. All true facts and valid opinions, right?

    So both sides accept the issues as they are and use the tools that you do have at your disposal to get the job done. No more fighting kids!!

    I would like to know if everyone is on the same page here. Since Shrink can't rip it and CloneDVD can, have we all tried using CloneDVD to deselect the undesired elements off of the original and then ripping an ISO Image with CloneDVD2 set to "DL +/-R" mode and then using Shrink to process that ISO and compress it to a SL disk?

    Now for my (.02) opinion, why are all you guys compressing?:confused: That is so five years ago! DVD media, both SL and DL is so cheap now, why don't you just split your DVD's onto two SL disks or burn your backups onto DL media?

    Best regards,
    Whisperer
     
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  18. rolling56

    rolling56 Well-Known Member

    Hi Whisperer :)
    That's all fine and dandy.
    If you only copy the movie only you will get 100% on a dvd-5 disc ;)
     
  19. Webslinger

    Webslinger Retired Moderator

    :confused: It does for Saw3.
     
  20. Whisperer

    Whisperer Well-Known Member

    I appreciate your point ... that removing extras and tracks will make a backup of a smaller size. But few releases, even "movie only" will really fit down to 4.38 GB in size and still be 100% uncompressed. Most movies are larger in data size.

    Also, (again appreciating your way of doing it), I don't want to remove anything. I love DTS sound on my home system, but want to keep Dolby too so it plays in my Saturn Outlook. And I want the Director's Commentary included. I hate & don't watch all the previews of coming attractions but my girlfriend likes them on the backups. So I do my backups 1:1. Point being everyone wants different things from their backups.

    Including Shrink and CloneDVD lovers who what to compress their backups onto one disk.

    There is no right or wrong method ... or bad way or good way. And there is no single "best and only" program capable of doing everything. God bless freedom of choice.

    :)
     
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