Slow?

Discussion in 'CloneDVD' started by DVDspin, Jun 4, 2007.

  1. DVDspin

    DVDspin Member

    I'm trying to back up a DVD with CloneDVD/AnyDVD and it seems to be going quite slowly(About 80 min). Is this my drive or is that a regular speed?
     
  2. Webslinger

    Webslinger Retired Moderator

  3. DVDspin

    DVDspin Member

    5. My drive is a Matshita DVD-RAM UJ-850S. Not sure which firmware. I'm running Vista home premium.
    6. I should have mentioned it, but this is just the ripping stage, not burning yet.
    7. N/A
    8.

    Summary for drive E: (AnyDVD 6.1.6.0)
    MATSHITA DVD-RAM UJ-850S 1.60 61120UKMEHA98359382
    Drive (Hardware) Region: 1

    Media is a DVD.
    Booktype: dvd-rom (version 1), Layers: 2 (opposite)
    Size of first Layer: 2014176 sectors (3933 MBytes)
    Total size: 4026905 sectors (7865 MBytes)

    Video DVD (or CD) label: SIMPSONS_SEASON6_DISC3
    Media is CSS protected!
    Video Standard: NTSC
    Media is locked to region(s): 1!

    DVD structure appears to be correct.
    Structural copy protection not found.
    Bad sector protection not found.



    As for DMA, I'm not sure. Where should I look in the device manager? I checked but couldn't see any IDE channels. See the attached image.
     

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  4. Webslinger

    Webslinger Retired Moderator

    Matshita drives are Panasonic (OEM) drives and tend to be cheap junk, which is why laptop companies and oem builders love them (because the drives don't cost much). They also suffer from region coding issues: visit here

    If the disc you are attempting to rip is, in some manner, damaged that will also increase ripping time required.


    How to enable DMA in Vista (click here)
     
    Last edited: Jun 5, 2007
  5. DVDspin

    DVDspin Member

    Ok, on both of the "ATA channel 0" entries DMA is enabled.
     
  6. Webslinger

    Webslinger Retired Moderator

    Well again, if the original disc is damaged in some manner ripping is going to take awhile or may not work at all.

    Download Nero cd-dvd speed. It's a free program. Select the tab labeled "scandisc". Select the appropriate drive letter, and click "start". If Nero cd-dvd speed reports read errors, your disc is bad and needs to be exchanged--even if it plays fine.
     
  7. Webslinger

    Webslinger Retired Moderator

    Also do step 4 from here

    Matshita drives in general though should be avoided (just an fyi in the future). I hate troubleshooting issues with them, because half the time the issue is with the drive.
     
  8. DVDspin

    DVDspin Member

    OK here are the filters.


    Filter Check Tool v3.4

    An Upper Filter found is: SiRemFil
    Filterdriver properties are:


    An Upper Filter found is: Cdralw2k
    Filterdriver properties are:


    A Lower Filter found is: ElbyDelay
    Filterdriver properties are:
    Name: ElbyDelay
    Caption: ElbyDelay
    Description: ElbyDelay
    AcceptPause: False
    AcceptStop: True
    DesktopInteract: False
    DisplayName: ElbyDelay
    ErrorControl: Normal
    ExitCode: 0
    PathName: C:\Windows\system32\Drivers\ElbyDelay.sys
    Version Info: 5.1.0.1
    ServiceSpecificExitCode: 0
    ServiceType: Kernel Driver
    Started: True
    StartMode: Manual
    StartName:
    State: Running
    Status: OK
    TagId: 0


    A Lower Filter found is: AnyDVD
    Filterdriver properties are:
    Name: AnyDVD
    Caption: AnyDVD
    Description: AnyDVD
    AcceptPause: False
    AcceptStop: True
    DesktopInteract: False
    DisplayName: AnyDVD
    ErrorControl: Normal
    ExitCode: 0
    PathName: C:\Windows\system32\Drivers\AnyDVD.sys
    Version Info: 6.1.6.0
    ServiceSpecificExitCode: 0
    ServiceType: Kernel Driver
    Started: True
    StartMode: Manual
    StartName:
    State: Running
    Status: OK
    TagId: 0


    A Lower Filter found is: PxHelp20
    Filterdriver properties are:
    Name: PxHelp20
    Caption: PxHelp20
    Description: PxHelp20
    AcceptPause: False
    AcceptStop: True
    DesktopInteract: False
    DisplayName: PxHelp20
    ErrorControl: Normal
    ExitCode: 0
    PathName: C:\Windows\system32\Drivers\PxHelp20.sys
    Version Info: 3.0.43.9
    ServiceSpecificExitCode: 0
    ServiceType: Kernel Driver
    Started: True
    StartMode: Boot
    StartName:
    State: Running
    Status: OK
    TagId: 0


    A Lower Filter found is: Cdr4_xp
    Filterdriver properties are:
    Name: Cdr4_xp
    Caption: Cdr4_xp
    Description: Cdr4_xp
    AcceptPause: False
    AcceptStop: True
    DesktopInteract: False
    DisplayName: Cdr4_xp
    ErrorControl: Normal
    ExitCode: 0
    PathName: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\Cdr4_xp.sys
    Version Info: 8.0.0.212
    ServiceSpecificExitCode: 0
    ServiceType: Kernel Driver
    Started: True
    StartMode: System
    StartName:
    State: Running
    Status: OK
    TagId: 6
     
  9. Webslinger

    Webslinger Retired Moderator

    Filter driver for Silicon Image SATALink controllers . . .

    Hmm. Might be an issue. I'm not sure yet.


    Used by Roxio Easy Media Creator, WinOnCD 6

    This probably isn't an issue, but it might be.

    Used by Roxio Easy Media Creator, WinOnCD 6, DragtoDisc and DirectCD

    Cdr4_xp is really bad news and needs to go.


    1. Uninstall dragtodisc or directcd. Don't use packet writing software. If you want that type of functionality use dvd-ram instead.

    2. If uninstalling didn't remove cdr4_xp from your filters, figure out what did install it, and uninstall that program. Reboot. Ensure cdr4_xp is no longer listed in your filters and try ripping again.

    3. Download Nero cd-dvd speed. It's a free program. Select the tab labeled "scandisc". Select the appropriate drive letter, and click "start". If Nero cd-dvd speed reports read errors, your disc is bad and needs to be exchanged--even if it plays fine.

    If Nero cd-dvd speed is reporting read errors there's no point troubleshooting this issue.
     
    Last edited: Jun 5, 2007
  10. DVDspin

    DVDspin Member

    Ok, I'm doing the scan now. I should be doing this with AnyDVD enabled right?
     
  11. Webslinger

    Webslinger Retired Moderator

    It doesn't really matter.
     
  12. DVDspin

    DVDspin Member

    Ok, there are no read errors. But just to confirm that my drive isn't at a regular speed, Nero cd speed was reading at about 3x and I tried another program to make an ISO file and it read at about 2x. Are there normal speeds?
     
  13. Webslinger

    Webslinger Retired Moderator

    It's possible your burner has some kind of ripspeed lock. If so, it might be possible to disable it, but I'm not really familiar with that burner.

    Again,

    1. Uninstall dragtodisc or directcd. Don't use packet writing software. If you want that type of functionality use dvd-ram instead.

    2. If uninstalling didn't remove cdr4_xp from your filters, figure out what did install it, and uninstall that program. Reboot. Ensure cdr4_xp is no longer listed in your filters and try ripping again.

    And if that doesn't work, then I'm out of ideas (other than trying to see what the max ripping speed is of your burner--or trying to see if there is some kind of riplock).
     
  14. DVDspin

    DVDspin Member

    I checked the specs on Sony's website (Vaio laptop) and it said:
    DVD+R DL Write: 4x max.
    DVD+R Write: 8x max.
    DVD+RW Write: 8x max.
    DVD-R Write: 8x max.
    DVD-RW Write: 6x max.
    CD-R Write: 24x max.
    CD-RW Write: 16x max.
    DVD±RW: Yes (DVD±R DL/DVD±RW/DVD-RAM)
    CD Read: 24x max.
    DVD Read: 8x max.
    DVD-RAM Write: 5x max.
    DVD-R DL Write: 4x max.
    DVD-RAM Read: 5x max.

    I'm doing the CDspeed benchmark now, if the results don't compare I'll get rid of the Roxio software of my computer.
     
  15. Webslinger

    Webslinger Retired Moderator

    Doesn't matter if they compare or not. cdr4_xp in your filters needs to go, regardless. You're just asking for problems with Directcd or Dragtodisc on your system.
     
  16. DVDspin

    DVDspin Member

    Ok, I removed Roxio. It got rid of the cdr4_xp filter, but now windows can't see my drive... An device manager shows an error, see included image.
     

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  17. Webslinger

    Webslinger Retired Moderator

    Try deleting the drive from device manager and rebooting.

    You used the uninstaller for the program right (and didn't manually delete files)?
     
  18. DVDspin

    DVDspin Member

    I used the uninstaller, I'll try removing from the device manager.
     
  19. mmdavis

    mmdavis Well-Known Member

    And you can have Roxio, just not the Drag-to-Disc part of it. That interferes with AnyDVD.
     
  20. Webslinger

    Webslinger Retired Moderator

    O.k., that's pretty distrubing then. Uninstallers shouldn't create these problems unless they are poorly coded.