Rocky Balboa

[DrinkLyeAndDie]

Yeah, but I think you can unselect everything you don't want in Clonedvd.

Only if it appears. I deselected all the trailers and junk minus the Movie and extra features when I ripped it to my HDD. The junk in the VIDEO_TS.VOB file remained. FixVTS remapped the output whether my DVD would have had an issue or not. It gave me the option of compressing in Nero Recode which in the end I didn't end up doing because I didn't have the time to let Recode do its work. At 75% quality with all the extras... I'm more than happy.

Yeah, I can kind of understand that, provided "jump directly the main movie" doesn't work in Anydvd--or if you can't remove that stuff by cutting out chapters in Clonedvd2.

With the Sony releases you can't use CloneDVD to deselect what I removed with VobBlanker. They'll still appear in the finished product. Jump to main menu may have worked but I view that feature in AnyDVD as experimental and never enable it.

 

[RAMROD]

I just backed up Balboa menus and all using newest versions of anydvd and clonedvd2

 

[Webslinger]

Only if it appears. I deselected all the trailers and junk minus the Movie and extra features when I ripped it to my HDD. The junk in the VIDEO_TS.VOB file remained. FixVTS remapped the output whether my DVD would have had an issue or not. It gave me the option of compressing in Nero Recode which in the end I didn't end up doing because I didn't have the time to let Recode do its work. At 75% quality with all the extras... I'm more than happy.

What I'm saying is that you shouldn't have to run fixvts at all in order to load the movie into Clonedvd2 or later versions of Nero Recode. I understand using VobBlanker.

Or are you saying the excess nonsense is being included in Clonedvd--and you can't remove it all unless you run the rip through fixvts first? That's news to me.

With the Sony releases you can't use CloneDVD to deselect what I removed with VobBlanker. They'll still appear in the finished product.

Yeah, I understand the use of VobBlanker here then (if you can't cut the stuff out of Clonedvd).

Jump to main menu may have worked but I view that feature in AnyDVD as experimental and never enable it.

Mine is always enabled. Keep in mind this feature doesn't actually remove anything--but just skips by it.

 

[DrinkLyeAndDie]

What I'm saying is that you shouldn't have to run fixvts at all in order to load the movie into Clonedvd2 or later versions of Nero Recode. I understand using VobBlanker.

Or are you saying the excess nonsense is being included in Clonedvd--and you can't remove it all unless you run the rip through fixvts first? That's news to me.

Webslinger, I'm not meaning to make fun of you at all but... I ripped the DVD to my HDD using CloneDVD to begin with so... asking if I need to run it through FixVTS to load it into CloneDVD is a tad... well... I'm laughing.

The answer is I don't need to run it through FixVTS to use CloneDVD but it's possible I may have had to in order for Recode to be happy. Most definitely if I had wanted to use DVD Shrink with how things are these days. I did it more for the simple fact that I wanted a compliant DVD. As I said before... I'm anal-retentive.

The reason I did a rip as DVD-9 first and then compressed after was I wanted to remove the junk with VobBlanker before compressing to DVD-5.

Yeah, I understand the use of VobBlanker here then (if you can cut the stuff out of Clonedvd).

Yep

Mine is always enabled. Keep in mind this feature doesn't actually remove anything--but just skips by it.

True. And I only saved like 20 megs but it was a truly wasted 20 megs. I'd rather have it not exist at all then just get skipped by.

 

[Webslinger]

asking if I need to run it through FixVTS to load it into CloneDVD is a tad... well... I'm laughing.

Well, yeah, that's why I'm wondering why you bothered. But now I understand.

The answer is I don't need to run it through FixVTS to use CloneDVD but it's possible I may have had to in order for Recode to be happy.

It should work if you're using Recode 2.5.2.0 or probably Recode 2.2.6.17b.

Most definitely if I had wanted to use DVD Shrink with how things are these days.

Yes

 

[RedFox 1]

I backed up all these movies, using AnyDVD and a number of other programs,

Postedby Clams Canino
If you can't do it on the fly - so be it - just relese a ripper that cleans up all the BS and we'll shut up. Until then, it's easier to use (and reccomend) freeware solutions. AnyDVD has lost the initiative to Sony - So take it back!
Beat them.... please.

AnyDVD has not lost anything, in fact over the past few updates it has gained alot. If you want to use a freeware solution please do so, but AnyDVD and CloneDVD2 will do all these movies with no problems. You can also use a number of other and witha great workaround for Shrink mentioned here 100 times, I do not think any initiative has been lost at all.:agree:

 

[Clams]

A little late on the gun here?

Opinions are opinions. I can assure you that *Shrink* users made AnyDVD #1 in its market to begin with. Yes, we're settling patiently for workarounds. But this Sony crap is still a new chapter in the history of AnyDVD..... it's up to Slysoft to see how the story ends. :agree:

-W

 

[RAMROD]

sometimes you cant have you cake and eat it to sometimes you have to pay for the cake

 

[eltravo]

Backs up fine

I purchased this movie when it came out and backed it up to see
if I encountered any problems. No problems at all. It backed up the full menu and all extras.

I was using anydvd 6.1.3.2 along with dvd shrink 3.2

Created a folder called Rocky Balboa
I right clicked on the anydvd icon in the try and chose "rip to hard disk"
the folder will be about 8 GB uncompressed.
Next I created a 2nd folder giving it a different title "Rocky_Balboa"

Run DVD-Shrink on the uncompressed folder and have it save the compressed version to the 2nd folder.

I used Nero Express ver 6 to back the compressed version to dvd.

Final results = :clap:

I have also been able to back up Grudge 2 and Open Season. I use Roxio Easy DVD copy(I purchased this for about 39.99 2 years ago at Best Buy and it has more than paid for itself) Use this program to back up the original dvd to a folder. It will compress itself while it writes it to the folder. Then I use Nero to write it to DVD-R or +R media.

Nero will give you some error messages while it starts but I ignore them and continue and so far everything copies fine.

 

[XBURN]

Balboa went well on AnyDVD and CloneDVD2 no problem.

 

[Clams]

sometimes you cant have you cake and eat it to sometimes you have to pay for the cake

Just FYI, I paid for AnyDVD. I bought it, only because it worked seamlessly with Shrink and handled the newer Sony protections of the time (ARCOSS etc). Shrink alone handles over 50% of the new releases today, and 99% of all the DVD's ever made. I bought it to keep Sony (and to some degree Disney) from being a pain in my anoose. (tm Borat)

I didn't buy Shrink because it was free, I bought it because it's my favorite of the DVD ripper/copier software. I'd give Mr. Shrink $50 for an updated version of Shrink before I'd spend a thin dime on CloneDVD2.

I even like Shrink better than Recode, because I can leave the directors comments on the DVD and force the right audio track to play by default, a feature glaringly left out of recode.

-W

 

[Fryguy1]

Hehe...only Westy

I agree too. I use Shrink exclusively as my preferred video compression software as the interface is extremely user-friendly and allows me the ability to "customize" my copy.

I used to use Shrink as my preferred ripper/decrypter as well, but since the programmer now works for Nero (as rumor has it), I've had to choose another.....AnyDVD. I love AnyDVD and works 95% of the time, but that other 5% "requires" me to use CloneDVD with it. I tried the demo, but have never been happy with it's interface and so I tend to avoid using it whenever possible. I am still considering purchasing it, but I'd like to get a bundled price for it since I already own AnyDVD...but my emails asking about this haven't been returned

But if AnyDVD/Slysoft could get Shrink to work seamlessly, they'd have an even bigger hit on their hands

W, say Hi to the gang at BW....my work now prevents me from connecting

Fry

 

[Clams]

Well Hiya Fry!!! How the hell are ewe??? Last time I saw you, your wife had a busted leg as I recall... I trust it's healed OK??

I got back to Seattle only once on business since the CON, but it was a "whirlwind" trip covering about 20 states. No time to see people. We stayed at Ssniffies house while in town and had a VERY memorable night gambling and drinking with Mike at a local Indian casino (go figgure). Latest news on BW is that General Olds has been sick as of late but seems to by rallying. Try to at least pop in once in a while from home. OK?

Back to business. I think CloneDVD2 is great for n00bs but just don't have what I want by a longshot. There are some workarounds for using Shrink with the new Sony crappolla - AND James from Slysoft has assured us he will eventually do "something" to get a clean rip out of the Sony crap that Shrink can handle. So all is not lost by any means.

In the meantime however..... all of Slysofts loyal minions (and sheep too!) have been using the Sony debacle to raise the stock value of CloneDVD2 as the golden child of "solutions" (read profiteering). So I've been trying to "keep the faith" (and objective balance) as this unfortunate conundrum moves forward. And there are plenty of strange solutions to get a rip that Shrink can work with - without buying something you don't really like, or want. If you don't wanna search the 3rd party forum here. Ask me about it on BW.

-W

 

[SamuriHL]

The answer is I don't need to run it through FixVTS to use CloneDVD but it's possible I may have had to in order for Recode to be happy. Most definitely if I had wanted to use DVD Shrink with how things are these days. I did it more for the simple fact that I wanted a compliant DVD. As I said before... I'm anal-retentive.

Stupid question time. After reviewing your process I have to wonder why you don't do it this way:

Rip with VobBlanker initially, blanking the titlesets and stuff you don't want in the initial process. Then run FixVTS on that to clean it up(if that's even necessary with VobBlanker...not really sure). And finally compress with CloneDVD or whatever program you prefer to use. That would cut out a pretty big step in the middle of your process that would save you time and still give you the results you're looking for. Anyway, food for thought. I do appreciate the anal retentive "get this crap off my DVD structure" approach to backups, however.

 

[DrinkLyeAndDie]

Stupid question time. After reviewing your process I have to wonder why you don't do it this way:

Rip with VobBlanker initially, blanking the titlesets and stuff you don't want in the initial process. Then run FixVTS on that to clean it up(if that's even necessary with VobBlanker...not really sure). And finally compress with CloneDVD or whatever program you prefer to use. That would cut out a pretty big step in the middle of your process that would save you time and still give you the results you're looking for. Anyway, food for thought. I do appreciate the anal retentive "get this crap off my DVD structure" approach to backups, however.

I find the process easier using CloneDVD when ripping to the HDD. Deselecting stuff is quicker and I've removed the largest portion of junk. VobBlanker I just use when I need to remove a buried FBI warning or whatever garbage they have hidden inside the files that can't be deselected in CloneDVD. Of course using VobBlanker as the initial ripper could remove a step from the process but I tend to feel the quality of the rip comes out better with CloneDVD. To clarify my previous statement, VobBlanker has the ability to rip a damaged disc that you may not know was damaged at the time. This isn't necessarily a good thing, mind you. The problem is the rip on your HDD contains a glitch where the damage was on the original physical disc and you may not even be aware of it until later.

I also don't always use VobBlanker but I do always rip my DVDs to HDD before burning the backup. Probably more work for me but in the end I think the results are better and while it may seem like more work = more time, I really don't think it takes that much longer.

 

[SamuriHL]

I find the process easier using CloneDVD when ripping to the HDD. Deselecting stuff is quicker and I've removed the largest portion of junk. VobBlanker I just use when I need to remove a buried FBI warning or whatever garbage they have hidden inside the files that can't be deselected in CloneDVD. Of course using VobBlanker as the initial ripper could remove a step from the process but I tend to feel the quality of the rip comes out better with CloneDVD. To clarify my previous statement, VobBlanker has the ability to rip a damaged disc that you may not know was damaged at the time. This isn't necessarily a good thing, mind you. The problem is the rip on your HDD contains a glitch where the damage was on the original physical disc and you may not even be aware of it until later.

I also don't always use VobBlanker but I do always rip my DVDs to HDD before burning the backup. Probably more work for me but in the end I think the results are better and while it may seem like more work = more time, I really don't think it takes that much longer.

All quite valid. I was simply curious as to the why. If you're happy with your ripping method, then by all means. I use different methods based upon the disc I'm backing up and the media that I'm backing up to. I do agree with your comment about having a bad original disc...that's quite true. Anyway, like I said, simply curious and thought I'd point out that you COULD do it slightly faster, but, your points are quite valid.

 

[DrinkLyeAndDie]

All quite valid. I was simply curious as to the why. If you're happy with your ripping method, then by all means. I use different methods based upon the disc I'm backing up and the media that I'm backing up to. I do agree with your comment about having a bad original disc...that's quite true. Anyway, like I said, simply curious and thought I'd point out that you COULD do it slightly faster, but, your points are quite valid.

Also, one more thing to note. I think I said I originally ripped Rocky Balboa as a DL rip. That is not a normal practice for me. And after having played around with a few newer Sony DVDs there is no point in ripping to DL before removing the buried FBI warnings and such. The amount of space saved is negligible. So I just rip to HDD as DVD-5 [5-18 minutes depending on the original disc], run FixVTS [about 6-10 minutes with the new Sony garbage], edit with VobBlanker [~5 minutes], and burn with Nero. When CloneDVD adds the ability to verify the written data then I'll use CloneDVD as my burner.

I used to be all about the speed at which I could make backups and I used to clone the whole DVD. These days I'm more picky.

 

[SamuriHL]

Also, one more thing to note. I think I said I originally ripped Rocky Balboa as a DL rip. That is not a normal practice for me. And after having played around with a few newer Sony DVDs there is no point in ripping to DL before removing the buried FBI warnings and such. The amount of space saved is negligible. So I just rip to HDD as DVD-5 [5-18 minutes depending on the original disc], run FixVTS [about 6-10 minutes with the new Sony garbage], edit with VobBlanker [~5 minutes], and burn with Nero. When CloneDVD adds the ability to verify the written data then I'll use CloneDVD as my burner.

I used to be all about the speed at which I could make backups and I used to clone the whole DVD. These days I'm more picky.

Like I said, for me it's all about the individual disc as to how I go about it. Some discs I use straight CloneDVD/AnyDVD and I'm done. If it's a bit longer and I still want to keep it on a DVD-5, I'll rip it with CloneDVD or VobBlanker(depends on my mood and how bad the embedded crap is that CloneDVD can't remove) and then run it through Recode. Almost always these days I'm using IMGBurn to burn my discs. I should go back to CopyToDVD now that they fixed the Vista problems I was having. But, IMGBurn does the job nicely for me.

Speed is good for some discs that don't require a lot of compression. Quality, however, is ALWAYS a requirement.

 

[RAMROD]

Just FYI, I paid for AnyDVD. I bought it, only because it worked seamlessly with Shrink and handled the newer Sony protections of the time (ARCOSS etc). Shrink alone handles over 50% of the new releases today, and 99% of all the DVD's ever made. I bought it to keep Sony (and to some degree Disney) from being a pain in my anoose. (tm Borat)

I didn't buy Shrink because it was free, I bought it because it's my favorite of the DVD ripper/copier software. I'd give Mr. Shrink $50 for an updated version of Shrink before I'd spend a thin dime on CloneDVD2.

I even like Shrink better than Recode, because I can leave the directors comments on the DVD and force the right audio track to play by default, a feature glaringly left out of recode.

-W

guess ya cant teach old dogs new tricks

just joshing

 

[georgieporgie]

I am hearing the same thing over and over, Shrink Compatibility is needed desparately

"You're right that even the ripped output from CloneDVD2 won't import directly into Shrink without FixVTS"

If this is the case then whatever FixVTS is doing needs to be added to the binary of the next release of AnyDVD because there was not any problem using shrink with AnyDVD until about 2 months ago.
Saw3
Grudge2
Casino Royale

Based on what I am hearing the AnyDVD customers are expecting AnyDVD to work with Shrink.
Using clone DVD or Ripping using AnyDVD would be fine, if those programs could SHRINK the content to fit on a 4.7 GB DVD.
There is a $1.75-$3 difference in price between 4.7 GB disks and 9GB disks.
As long as people cannot shrink the content, they are going to gripe because it is costing them extra money to back up their DVD movies so long as AnyDVD cannot maintain Shrink 3.2 compatibility.