Please stop modifying settings when installing new version over the top

Discussion in 'AnyDVD HD (Blu-ray issues)' started by Defenestration, Dec 21, 2007.

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  1. Defenestration

    Defenestration Active Member

    AnyDVD is great and has regular updates, which is also great. However, it's very annoying to find that the installer has re-enabled Autostart and Automatically check for new version after installing a new version over the top of an older version. It may also re-enable other settings, but those are two that I specifically like disabled.

    Please can you make the installer leave ALL existing settings as-is.
     
  2. James

    James Redfox Development Team Staff Member

    No, because these are very important settings I *want* people to leave alone. The worst thing you can do is disable AnyDVD's autostart. Do yourself a favor and leave it alone. At least it will pop up the settings window, if (and only if) anything was changed after an installation.

    I don't know of other settings.

    No, this is done intentionally.
     
  3. Defenestration

    Defenestration Active Member

    Why ?

    Windows functions happily without it, and it can interfere with the verify feature of CD/DVD burning tools like Imgburn.

    It would be better to display a pop-up message once when the user disables either of these settings. After that the settings should be left as-is, unless the user manually changes them.
     
  4. Trader

    Trader Member

    I agree! Autostart sounds like a good idea until the 25 programs that use it load down my computer
    when booting up! Really, Let me decide when your program is needed. I only need slysoft for backups!
    My PC is new and is fully HDCP compliant.
     
  5. linx05

    linx05 Well-Known Member

    You can decide if you want AnyDVD to start upon boot or not. Just disable it in the settings of course :p.

    You guys seem to know your way around AnyDVD but other people may not. AnyDVD, while loaded, can protect the user from nasties getting onto their computer up when inserting a DVD/CD.
     
  6. James

    James Redfox Development Team Staff Member

    AnyDVD is an extension to the operating system. It is designed to be kept running, not started and stopped.
     
  7. James

    James Redfox Development Team Staff Member

    Then disable it, don't exit it.
     
  8. Defenestration

    Defenestration Active Member

    I personally think it's poor design to just change someones settings. Why bother giving the user the option to disable autostart and Auto updates, when it's apparently such a heinous thing to do ?

    If someone has disabled these options, then they must have a good reason for doing so, and to just re-enable them is wrong IMO.

    Some people (myself included) like to start AnyDVD when required, and then stop it when we are no longer using it.

    Unless there is a good technical reason for it (which I doubt there is), then I don't see why these options are enabled every time someone updates AnyDVD.
     
  9. abalamahalamatandra

    abalamahalamatandra Well-Known Member

    I have both settings enabled so it doesn't matter to me but i don't understand the logic.
    If you want people to leave these settings alone then why give them the option to disable them in the first place? And since you give them the option obviously you understand that it should be their decision. So why "force" the enabled setting on them with every update? It's their system, they should be able to use AnyDVD anyway they want and if they don't want it running permanently or check for updates that's their prerogative.
     
  10. odd_function

    odd_function Guest

    Hi james :)

    I just wanted to say: this is an awesome DVD Ripper. :bowdown:
    I hate to say this but, I agree with Defenestration on this one. If you reinstall a program and the settings revert back to normal settings, this only shows that this is maybe a hassle for some users. I personally don't mind whatvever settings the software chooses as long as the program runs properly. :)
     
  11. James

    James Redfox Development Team Staff Member

    It is (that's why these settings are there). But we want to reduce the support load from people using old outdated AnyDVD versions mailing us about problems, which could be resolved if they were using current versions. Same thing with the autostart: If you start AnyDVD while a disc is in the drive, it might not work correctly.
     
  12. therivetman

    therivetman Well-Known Member

    leave it as it is

    It's a simple way of verifying your update took....I expect the change when I update....if it was removed I might not think the update was successful....it's like you have a brand new install......
     
  13. Defenestration

    Defenestration Active Member

    The installer says whether the install is successful or not. The settings being reverted to default does not indicate the install was successful.
     
  14. d.chatten

    d.chatten Well-Known Member

    I suspect that the check for updates option also checks if your registration key is blacklisted or not, for AnyDVD to check for updates and blacklisted keys it needs to be running, hence the autostart and update check options being set to default on installation of a new version.

    I always leave the autostart and update check enabled at all times, unless it interferes with CD/DVD burning software such as ImgBurn, even then it's only disabled until i'm finnish with ImgBurn, anyway, it only takes a right click on the AnyDVD taskbar icon to disable or exit AnyDVD.
     
    Last edited: Dec 22, 2007
  15. Rathbone80

    Rathbone80 Well-Known Member

    Depite what the Slysoft guys tell us, I think THAT is exactly the reason why they set the default values. From my firewall logs I can can say: Yes, it does verify the key when phoning home.

    Just export the HKCU/Software/Slysoft/AnyDVD/Settings folder. After every update apply it with a double click and you have your settings back.
     
    Last edited: Dec 23, 2007
  16. Bitmonster

    Bitmonster Active Member

    I also dislike this "feature" of the AnyDVD installer. Especially because it does not say what it has re-enabled.

    As a compromise I would prefer that the installer asks the user, if it should revert these settings or at least explicitly says that it has re-enabled these settings. But I would prefer it, if the program would not condescend me.

    Actually the current design provokes the contrary of what SlySoft intends. I update less often, because I'm annoyed of this reverting to autostart without informing me and showing me the configuration panel without saying what it wants from me. Update checking then shows me a popup on every system start, so I turn it off also. And since this is also reverted, I dislike updating even more.

    If a virus scanner would do it this way, nobody would buy it. And AnyDVD is also one of the regularly updating programs. So it should have a better autoupdate function. One that doesn't need user interaction and doesn't lead to unexpected results.
     
  17. Plug

    Plug Well-Known Member

    I get the distint feeling that most of you complaining about autostart and update are doing so on the behalf of warezed versions.

    the reason autostart and update are always getting enabled is to blacklist people when there keys get spread about the net.
     
  18. Charlie

    Charlie Well-Known Member

    I want to say that I agree with you here. Looks like allot of the newer users are even remotely posting only about this. What is really the big deal here? It's not like your Norton all in one or your McAfee all in one and makes your system take forever to boot. Do a clean install of your OS no anti anything on it or additional programs just the OS only. After the install is complete reboot the PC. See how fast it is? Now install only anydvd reboot...is it as fast? Yes it is as there is no resources used really to initiate anydvd to auto run. The default settings is what the company prefers and this is why it is so. After all the author knows what's best right?
     
  19. Defenestration

    Defenestration Active Member

    Not at all. Ican't speak for the others, but I have a legitimate licence for AnyDVD HD.
     
  20. Defenestration

    Defenestration Active Member

    It's that the installer changes my settings without any notice - Not a good thing IMO.

    Default settings on initial install is fine, but to change them without any notice when upgrading is bad design. Why give the user the option of changing these two settings if they shouldn't be changed ?

    PS. Don't take this as a request to remove these options because that would only make the situation worse. :)

    Don't get me wrong, as I said, AnyDVD is a great piece of software which "just works" and is low on resources. It's the installer which needs changing slightly IMO.
     
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