Changing Profil from 1080p High to 1080p Main on Netflix

Discussion in 'AnyStream' started by Movielover, Sep 24, 2020.

  1. Movielover

    Movielover Member

    Is that possible? Because the "High" Profile has the lower Bitrate at the moment

    Here is an Example:

    "The Devil All the Time"

    Anystream Rip:
    Video
    ID : 1
    Format : AVC
    Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
    Format-Profil : High@L4
    Format-Einstellungen : CABAC / 4 Ref Frames
    Format-Einstellungen für CABAC : Ja
    Format-Einstellungen für RefFrames : 4 frames
    Codec-ID : avc1
    Codec-ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
    Dauer : 2 h 18 min
    Bitraten-Modus : variabel
    Bitrate : 6 936 kb/s
    maximale Bitrate : 20,0 Mb/s
    Breite : 1 920 Pixel
    Höhe : 1 080 Pixel
    Bildseitenverhältnis : 16:9
    Modus der Bildwiederholungsrate : konstant
    Bildwiederholungsrate : 24,000 FPS
    ColorSpace : YUV
    ChromaSubsampling/String : 4:2:0
    BitDepth/String : 8 bits
    Scantyp : progressiv
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.139
    Stream-Größe : 6,73 GiB (97%)
    verwendete Encoder-Bibliothek : x264 core 148 r2722 1b0121b
    Kodierungseinstellungen : cabac=1 / ref=4 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x111 / me=umh / subme=10 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=120 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=8 / lookahead_threads=2 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / stitchable=1 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=16 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=240 / keyint_min=121 / scenecut=0 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=240 / rc=crf / mbtree=1 / crf=17.0 / qcomp=0.50 / qpmin=6 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / vbv_maxrate=20000 / vbv_bufsize=25000 / crf_max=0.0 / nal_hrd=vbr / filler=0 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:0.80
    Kodierungs-Datum : UTC 2020-09-24 22:12:32
    Tagging-Datum : UTC 2020-09-24 22:12:32
    Codec configuration box : avcC

    Different Rip:
    Video
    ID : 1
    Format : AVC
    Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
    Format-Profil : Main@L4
    Format-Einstellungen : CABAC / 3 Ref Frames
    Format-Einstellungen für CABAC : Ja
    Format-Einstellungen für RefFrames : 3 frames
    Codec-ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
    Dauer : 2 h 18 min
    Bitraten-Modus : variabel
    Bitrate : 7 500 kb/s
    maximale Bitrate : 11,2 Mb/s
    Breite : 1 920 Pixel
    Höhe : 1 080 Pixel
    Bildseitenverhältnis : 16:9
    Modus der Bildwiederholungsrate : konstant
    Bildwiederholungsrate : 24,000 FPS
    Color space : YUV
    Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
    Bit depth : 8 bits
    Scantyp : progressiv
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.151
    Stream-Größe : 7,20 GiB (84%)
    verwendete Encoder-Bibliothek : x264 core 148 r2722 1b0121b
    Kodierungseinstellungen : cabac=1 / ref=3 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x1:0x111 / me=umh / subme=10 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=24 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=0 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=6 / lookahead_threads=1 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / stitchable=1 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=2 / b_pyramid=0 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=24 / scenecut=0 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=48 / rc=2pass / mbtree=1 / bitrate=7500 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.50 / qpmin=6 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / vbv_maxrate=11250 / vbv_bufsize=15000 / nal_hrd=vbr / filler=0 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
    Default : Ja
    Forced : Nein

    Look at the Videosize alone its 500 MBs higher also the Bitrate is higher so it would be nice if there were an Option to choose the different profiles?
     
  2. teege

    teege Member

  3. Movielover

    Movielover Member

    Oh iam sorry i didnt saw that thread.
     
  4. goapy

    goapy Member

    I'm no avc expert, but I'd think that high @ 6936k is "better" than main @ 7500k, notwithstanding the nominal values of the bitrates and file sizes.
     
  5. Pete

    Pete Forum Admin Staff Member

    I see this very often - that people will go for the video with the highest bitrate, thinking that must be better.
    If that were a sensible approach, we'd all be still using MPEG2 :)

    If you look closely, there are a few very significant differences, that weigh more than the sheer bit rate.
    The smaller file is using a far larger motion estimation range and way more B frames.
    I'm fairly certain, that the first one offers the far better quality.
     
  6. Movielover

    Movielover Member

    No its not ive tested it, the "High" Version looks worse in dark scenes. Also MPEG2 is still used on some german blurays :D

    Its the same problem with crf encodes often they look worse than 2 pass because in dark scenes the bitrate is to minimal and you have artefacts all over the place, you can see that with OLED TVs because they can show them, with normal LEDs its way more difficult because no absolut blacks etc.

    Netflix changed the "good" Bitrate Versions to "Main" because of piracy they cant patch the "hole" (or atleast all TVs from pre 2016 could not use Netflix anymore) thats why they changed the profiles some time ago. The "Main" 1080p Profile is the better one at the moment.
     
  7. Pete

    Pete Forum Admin Staff Member

    Well, ok, then I'll take your word for it.