Changing Profil from 1080p High to 1080p Main on Netflix

[Movielover]

Is that possible? Because the "High" Profile has the lower Bitrate at the moment

Here is an Example:

"The Devil All the Time"

Anystream Rip:
Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format-Profil : High@L4
Format-Einstellungen : CABAC / 4 Ref Frames
Format-Einstellungen für CABAC : Ja
Format-Einstellungen für RefFrames : 4 frames
Codec-ID : avc1
Codec-ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Dauer : 2 h 18 min
Bitraten-Modus : variabel
Bitrate : 6 936 kb/s
maximale Bitrate : 20,0 Mb/s
Breite : 1 920 Pixel
Höhe : 1 080 Pixel
Bildseitenverhältnis : 16:9
Modus der Bildwiederholungsrate : konstant
Bildwiederholungsrate : 24,000 FPS
ColorSpace : YUV
ChromaSubsampling/String : 4:2:0
BitDepth/String : 8 bits
Scantyp : progressiv
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.139
Stream-Größe : 6,73 GiB (97%)
verwendete Encoder-Bibliothek : x264 core 148 r2722 1b0121b
Kodierungseinstellungen : cabac=1 / ref=4 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x111 / me=umh / subme=10 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=120 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=8 / lookahead_threads=2 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / stitchable=1 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=16 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=240 / keyint_min=121 / scenecut=0 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=240 / rc=crf / mbtree=1 / crf=17.0 / qcomp=0.50 / qpmin=6 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / vbv_maxrate=20000 / vbv_bufsize=25000 / crf_max=0.0 / nal_hrd=vbr / filler=0 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:0.80
Kodierungs-Datum : UTC 2020-09-24 22:12:32
Tagging-Datum : UTC 2020-09-24 22:12:32
Codec configuration box : avcC

Different Rip:
Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format-Profil : Main@L4
Format-Einstellungen : CABAC / 3 Ref Frames
Format-Einstellungen für CABAC : Ja
Format-Einstellungen für RefFrames : 3 frames
Codec-ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Dauer : 2 h 18 min
Bitraten-Modus : variabel
Bitrate : 7 500 kb/s
maximale Bitrate : 11,2 Mb/s
Breite : 1 920 Pixel
Höhe : 1 080 Pixel
Bildseitenverhältnis : 16:9
Modus der Bildwiederholungsrate : konstant
Bildwiederholungsrate : 24,000 FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scantyp : progressiv
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.151
Stream-Größe : 7,20 GiB (84%)
verwendete Encoder-Bibliothek : x264 core 148 r2722 1b0121b
Kodierungseinstellungen : cabac=1 / ref=3 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x1:0x111 / me=umh / subme=10 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=24 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=0 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=6 / lookahead_threads=1 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / stitchable=1 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=2 / b_pyramid=0 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=24 / scenecut=0 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=48 / rc=2pass / mbtree=1 / bitrate=7500 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.50 / qpmin=6 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / vbv_maxrate=11250 / vbv_bufsize=15000 / nal_hrd=vbr / filler=0 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
Default : Ja
Forced : Nein

Look at the Videosize alone its 500 MBs higher also the Bitrate is higher so it would be nice if there were an Option to choose the different profiles?

 

[teege]

I already reported this... The link was on the forum like 3 hours ago...

EDIT: Found it -- https://forum.redfox.bz/threads/request-ability-to-select-high-main-profile-with-netflix.79074/

 

[Movielover]

Oh iam sorry i didnt saw that thread.

 

[goapy]

I'm no avc expert, but I'd think that high @ 6936k is "better" than main @ 7500k, notwithstanding the nominal values of the bitrates and file sizes.

 

[Pete]

I see this very often - that people will go for the video with the highest bitrate, thinking that must be better.
If that were a sensible approach, we'd all be still using MPEG2

If you look closely, there are a few very significant differences, that weigh more than the sheer bit rate.
The smaller file is using a far larger motion estimation range and way more B frames.
I'm fairly certain, that the first one offers the far better quality.

 

[Movielover]

No its not ive tested it, the "High" Version looks worse in dark scenes. Also MPEG2 is still used on some german blurays

Its the same problem with crf encodes often they look worse than 2 pass because in dark scenes the bitrate is to minimal and you have artefacts all over the place, you can see that with OLED TVs because they can show them, with normal LEDs its way more difficult because no absolut blacks etc.

Netflix changed the "good" Bitrate Versions to "Main" because of piracy they cant patch the "hole" (or atleast all TVs from pre 2016 could not use Netflix anymore) thats why they changed the profiles some time ago. The "Main" 1080p Profile is the better one at the moment.

 

[Pete]

Netflix changed the "good" Bitrate Versions to "Main" because of piracy they cant patch the "hole" (or atleast all TVs from pre 2016 could not use Netflix anymore) thats why they changed the profiles some time ago. The "Main" 1080p Profile is the better one at the moment.

Well, ok, then I'll take your word for it.