T
Thor
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Really, you're making a mountain out of a molehill.
Take AnyDVDHD for example, it is an upgrade to AnyDVD. When you purchase AnyDVDHD, you are actually purchasing two programs (AnyDVD which handles DVDs only --and-- AnyDVDHD which handles Blurays). Because Slysoft developed both, they are integrated so that if you purchase AnyDVDHD, you don't have to turn around and purchase AnyDVD since AnyDVDHD codebase integrated with AnyDVD.
Now, since CloneDVD isn't a Slysoft developed product, Slysoft can't just dump thier BD code on top of the Elby code. And no, code that decrypts BD can't automatically decrypt DVD. They are totally different format with different authoring methods. For you to assume that if it can do BD, it can do DVD is ridiculous.
In all those rippers you mentioned, they started with DVD handling and added BD handling as an upgrade (which you paid for). Slysoft is doing the same thing. It's just that because they don't own the code, they can't integrate it as one product. And I see no reason why Slysoft should cannabalize sales of CloneDVD by creating it from scratch through a different product and adding it to CloneBD just because you think that a BD ripper should automatically handle DVDs.
If you need to ability to reauthor DVDs, purchase CloneDVD now. When CloneBD comes out, then "upgrade" so you can handle both formats. Slysoft always has discounts for purchasing multiple licenses in one transaction. You claim you don't want to get anything for free, but then you want Slysoft to through in a DVD author program when you purchase a BD reauthor program when one has nothing to do with the other.
I get what you're saying, i just think it's not correct to think that way.
Let me say up front that I am sorry about being so firm in this message, but I am just so tired of repeating myself over and over again, because people are so "Pro-Slysoft", that they cannot seem to understand even the simplest of points and keep telling me I'm saying something other than what I'm saying and then ignoring what I actually do say. That means I'm not the one looking for the argument here.
I just came made a point and asked for some info and maybe a link. Still, all I have gotten to this point, is people trying to defend Sly and no link and not one person responding to what I actually did say and yet, telling me how rude I am, even though they're the ones who keep having me repeat myself!
So I ask that you PLEASE read this message CAREFULLY and do nto skim through it, okay?
I didn't say it was "automatic". I said that I have never seen software do Blu-Ray and not DVD's. I also said that this would not be happening if it were not for the agreement Sly has with EB. You can be sure of that! If this truly is happening, then I guarantee it's a "non-compete" thing, for the easiest way to say it.
As for AnyDVD, that is not a good example. Especially not for you, my friend.
1) I never said that AnyDVD HD should have been a free upgrade. But AnyDVD HD users should be able to expect that it is backward compatible and handles DVD's as well. Especially since it is named, "AnyDVD".
2) My example was about not owning one already and then buying. Using your example, what is happening now would be like SlySoft having made two versions and the HD version didn't do DVD's and you have to buy two separate versions because the original is actually donbe by another company. That would be EXACTLY IT!
3) This is about it not having the functionality of backward compatibility (which is the issue for the user), BECAUSE OF an agreement they made with EB, which would most likely include them not being able to put out the same product, meaning that they can't put out one that does DVD's. It's not that it's a major job to make it do DVD's too. Programmers have been doing that for some time now. And I haven't run across any other company that has a Blu-Ray product, that does not also handle DVD's. I even provided links as an example.
Look at it this way...
Slysoft puts out burning software by making an agreement with Ashampoo for their burning software, which at the time, does DVD's. At the time, DVD's are the thing. But you don't buy it yet, so you own nothing.
Later, Slysoft puts out their own burning software that can burn Blu-Ray discs and they tell you that you must pay twice and buy two burning packages, because theirs does not burn DVD's.
Now are you going to tell me that it's normal for burning software that can burn Blu-Ray discs, NOT to be able to burn DVD's?!
And are you going to tell me that didn't happen because of the agreement they have with Ashampoo for their DVD burning software?!
And is that okay with you to pay twice, when every other burning software out there that burns Blu-Ray discs, also burns DVD's?!
Of course you won't! And yet you're doing it about movie software and again, every other company...!!!
I mean, what is it that you people think you're saying here?! You know what I'm saying is right!
This is NOT about having the software and then demanding the other version free!
This IS about not having any of it and objecting to having to buy two pieces of software to do the same thing with two different kinds of discs, when no other company makes a user do that and you know it has to be because of their agreement with a whole separate company! Wouldn't it be smarter not to come out with their own and just go with EB again for their Blu-Ray software, which I bet will do DVD's as well?!
I'm sorry, but you won't convince me that's okay the way it is now (if indeed this is not just some crazy rumor) and I have the right to say it's not okay! And while people complain about it being in the forum, where else is it supposed to be?!
And remember, YOU PEOPLE keep dragging me into repeating myself and you people keep acting like it's an okay thing and to top it all off, you act like software that works with both Blu-Ray and DVD is some sort of oddball rare beast! It isn't! It's the norm!
And what I noticed, is that the same people who claim to know something about this upcoming software, that I keep asking for info on it from and for a link to some info about it, COMPLETELY IGNORE THAT REQUEST! They don't even say there isn't a link! They just ignore it!
And don't say it's because I'm rude, because I wasn't and had asked nicely for it and I am just getting more and more rude in response now, because I'm getting tired of typing the same damn thing over and over again, because people want to pretend they don't get it! And you are not the guardian of Slysoft and I have the right to object to something and to vote with my feet when it comes to giving them any more of my money, even if you don't think so!
Now I really don't want to argue about this any more. I really don't! And I'm not going to. I said what I have to say and if anyone has more INFO AND NOT ARGUMENTS, then please, pass it/them on. I would very much appreciate it.
And with that, I'm done with this. If Slysoft pulls this crap, then I'm done with them, period and trust me, the people I run into will be as well, because they follow my recommendations. And it's not that this is such a huge deal with it being one piece of software, but the following remains true:
1) It is Slysoft who is telling me this software that they have now is what I NEED if I want to avoid the problems I have had lately with DVD Shrink, because the disc encryption has changed.
2) I use movie software A LOT!
3) It makes me then have to wonder how many more times this type of thing will happen (if indeed it is happening now). I am not rich and these lifetime keys add up! I believe it to be bad business practice and I have the right to believe that.
So for those three reasons, no, I am not making a mountain out of a mole hill.
Anyway, like I said, if you have a link or something with some kind of official info on it (even just a SlySoft employee talking about it) and what it will and won't do, then please let me know. Otherwise, let's just let it drop here, okay?