BD/HD DVD ISO Image Creation

[SamuriHL]

No, that's not an assumption you should make at all. It's *ONLY* true for titles that AnyDVD doesn't have in its database already. Every new version of AnyDVD that's released has all the known keys added to it. So, if you get a new title that has been released since the last version of AnyDVD was released, then in theory AnyDVD would need to hit the server to acquire a key for that title. Anything that was released previous would not need to get a key...AnyDVD would already have it. And once the next version of AnyDVD is released, those keys would be internal so it would not be necessary to insert the original again. I would not advocate this method at all if it were a pain in the ass to use. There are VERY few times you're going to be caught in a situation where putting the original in to acquire a key is necessary.

 

[thezone]

ok cool. Thanks for your help it is much appreciated. I'm sure i will be back soon as am going to attempt the bd main movie only method i see that you have written a guide for.

Cheers

 

[SamuriHL]

Sure. Any questions you have I'll do my best to answer.

 

[Howardmd1968]

I didn't follow directions but it worked. I tried using the second method since i am not burning to bd and as soon as i disabled anydvd i got could read due to copy protections.
I just left anydvd enabled and i created an iso that worked flawlessly of "One last Call", it even had the dolby truehd.
Now i need to convert a few bd folders to iso.

Correction. I disabled anydvd and powerdvd stopped playing. I will try again using both sets of directions to see if this fixes it. I now see why your directions are the way they are.

 

[SamuriHL]

as soon as i disabled anydvd i got could read due to copy protections.

HUH? What does this mean? I read all my images with AnyDVD disabled. If you're referring to the copy protection *WARNING* in ImgBurn, then, so? It's just a warning letting you know the disc is encrypted. It's not preventing you from reading anything.

 

[Howardmd1968]

HUH? What does this mean? I read all my images with AnyDVD disabled. If you're referring to the copy protection *WARNING* in ImgBurn, then, so? It's just a warning letting you know the disc is encrypted. It's not preventing you from reading anything.

Thanks, that's what i saw. I will try again with a BD i really want.

 

[SamuriHL]

It's just a warning. You can turn it off in the options page. However, ignoring it completely is fine, too.

 

[starz]

Sure. Any questions you have I'll do my best to answer.

I have one question thats been bothering me for a while and just never asked.
You say to insert the disc first with anydvd running and then disable anydvd to create a full ISO image of the disc all the protection intact. this is not a problem and I do kinda like this Idea. but now for my question. What happens if you reload vista. Example Hard Drives Dies and your suddenly stuck reinstalling UR o/s and programs and such. what happens then? Do I have to reinsert every Disc I ever riped in to my PC to get keys again before I can use the ISO files I created This way? or can I some how back up my keys into a simple recovery. cause I'm not sure I'd like to have to reinsert 100 BDs to get keys again. yeah I know I probably got it wrong but I want to be sure...thx SamuriHL
Starz

 

[hlkc]

I have one question thats been bothering me for a while and just never asked.
You say to insert the disc first with anydvd running and then disable anydvd to create a full ISO image of the disc all the protection intact. this is not a problem and I do kinda like this Idea. but now for my question. What happens if you reload vista. Example Hard Drives Dies and your suddenly stuck reinstalling UR o/s and programs and such. what happens then? Do I have to reinsert every Disc I ever riped in to my PC to get keys again before I can use the ISO files I created This way? or can I some how back up my keys into a simple recovery. cause I'm not sure I'd like to have to reinsert 100 BDs to get keys again. yeah I know I probably got it wrong but I want to be sure...thx SamuriHL
Starz

AnyDVD HD disable + Imgburn = As close as the original ISO to your HDD.

Play the back up ISO from your HDD and with AnyDVD HD enable; you will use the latest and greatest AnyDVD version hints no need to store any keys anywhere as you thinking.

 

[starz]

AnyDVD HD disable + Imgburn = As close as the original ISO to your HDD.

Play the back up ISO from your HDD and with AnyDVD HD enable; you will use the latest and greatest AnyDVD version hints no need to store any keys anywhere as you thinking.

ok thx for the quick reply I will use this method from now on.

 

[SamuriHL]

I have one question thats been bothering me for a while and just never asked.
You say to insert the disc first with anydvd running and then disable anydvd to create a full ISO image of the disc all the protection intact. this is not a problem and I do kinda like this Idea. but now for my question. What happens if you reload vista. Example Hard Drives Dies and your suddenly stuck reinstalling UR o/s and programs and such. what happens then? Do I have to reinsert every Disc I ever riped in to my PC to get keys again before I can use the ISO files I created This way? or can I some how back up my keys into a simple recovery. cause I'm not sure I'd like to have to reinsert 100 BDs to get keys again. yeah I know I probably got it wrong but I want to be sure...thx SamuriHL
Starz

Someone didn't fully read the thread. No, AnyDVD internally stores the keys for all known discs at the time of release. The reason I say to let AnyDVD scan the disc first is for those rare instances when you get a new disc that AnyDVD doesn't (yet) have a key for. It will go to the server, acquire the key, and you're good to go. The next version of AnyDVD will then contain that new key, so, your fears of having to rescan 100's of discs is not warranted here.

 

[sploo]

Hi all,

I've been taking my first steps into getting Blu-ray playback going on a PC, and I've read through this (very useful) thread. However, I've still not been entirely successful.

Having tried a few things before I found this thread, and a few things as a result of reading this thread, this is what I have:

* Casino Royale - extracted to ISO by ImgBurn, with AnyDVD HD enabled
* Casino Royale - extracted to ISO by CloneCD, with AnyDVD HD enabled
* Casino Royale - extracted to ISO by CloneCD, with AnyDVD HD disabled
* House of Flying Daggers (region A) - extracted to ISO by CloneCD, with AnyDVD HD enabled
* House of Flying Daggers (region A) - extracted to ISO by ImgBurn, with AnyDVD HD enabled
* Cars - extracted as files by AnyDVD HD, then built as an ISO using SamuriHL's ImgBurn script

These were all done on an XP32 SP3 PC with a trial version of AnyDVD HD, CloneCD, and ImgBurn.

I took these images to a Vista32 SP1 PC (that *doesn't* have a Blu-ray drive) and installed VirtualCloneDrive. This PC has PowerDVD 8 Ultra, but no install of AnyDVD HD.

I can mount and see the files on any of the images (except the Casino Royal rip that was done with AnyDVD HD disabled), and I can get PowerDVD to play the main movie file (if I select the right m2ts file in the BDMV/STREAM directory). I guess this would indicate that the ripping/DRM removal process has worked successfully.

However, if I try to open a mounted ISO in PowerDVD (as if it were a Blu-ray disc), PowerDVD asks me to choose a region (indicating 0 changes left). I select region 'B', press OK, and it displays 'Play' in the top right of the window. It then immediately displays 'Stop' and goes back to the main screen (the red image with the pic of the lady).

Anyone got any ideas what might be wrong?

PS Just remembered - in the "Video Blu-Ray" tab on AnyDVD HD it had "Enable Blu-Ray support" and "Remove BD+ protection" ticked. I also ticked "Remove Blu-Ray Region Code", and left the associated radio button as "Automatic".

 

[Hawk]

However, if I try to open a mounted ISO in PowerDVD (as if it were a Blu-ray disc), PowerDVD asks me to choose a region (indicating 0 changes left). I select region 'B', press OK, and it displays 'Play' in the top right of the window. It then immediately displays 'Stop' and goes back to the main screen (the red image with the pic of the lady).

That means region counter is finished. No more changes can be made. Also what region is orginal one in.

 

[Hawk]

PS Just remembered - in the "Video Blu-Ray" tab on AnyDVD HD it had "Enable Blu-Ray support" and "Remove BD+ protection" ticked. I also ticked "Remove Blu-Ray Region Code", and left the associated radio button as "Automatic".

Hint: Automatic Remove Blu-Ray Region Code doesn't work always.

You have three Blu-ray, which one you were trying to play. Could we have log file of Anydvd as well.

When was powerdvd installed and did you change regions. If not Reinstall see if it fix problem. If yes which region it is know?

Also remember even though anydvd remove region. Powerdvd still need to be assigned region once.

 

[sploo]

Thanks for the responses. Well, I haven't done anything with changing PowerDVD's region, though it's not on a machine I have control of, so I don't know the history. IRC it came up as 'B', so I simply clicked on OK.

It occurred to me that the drive usually has a limited number of region changes allowed (thinking back to DVD playback). However, the 'drive' in this instance is of course VirtualCloneDrive, so I don't know how it reports its region code.

The Casino Royale and Cars discs are region B, the House of Flying Daggers disc is region A. I guess I could try ripping the discs again without removing the region code...

Is there an issue whereby PowerDVD may refuse to play an image that doesn't have a region (i.e. the player and disc region must match exactly?). Can't think that would be case (as sometimes discs are released for the world market).

The PC I was using for ripping isn't my own, so it'll be next week before I can get access to it again but I'll try it without removing the region, and get some logs. Thanks!

 

[starz]

Someone didn't fully read the thread. No, AnyDVD internally stores the keys for all known discs at the time of release. The reason I say to let AnyDVD scan the disc first is for those rare instances when you get a new disc that AnyDVD doesn't (yet) have a key for. It will go to the server, acquire the key, and you're good to go. The next version of AnyDVD will then contain that new key, so, your fears of having to rescan 100's of discs is not warranted here.

yea I understand it now thx. btw ur ISO creation method works great. but in some cases maybe all cases I don't know yet. uses up to 7 GB more space then the BDMV folder actually has in it. example # 1 Man on Fire BD+ is 46.6 GB disc but the BDMV folder is
39.7 GB all the folders on the Disc are 39.8 GB so it's like a 7 GB empty space there. I been using imgburn "create Image File from Disc" option
ID4 also has a gap like this as another example.

This appears to be only with BD+ Tittles but I don't know if all.

Edit: Can add Sunshine BD+ as well
this one is a bit more dramatic BDMV folders 36.7 disc 46.6 GB 10 GB of empty space.
or what I think is empty space I don't know. what would I be losing if I burned all the folders on the disc to ISO? would I still be able to have a protected working ISO, I think yes. I hope Yes cause I just accounted for a 25 GB loss of space on my HDDs on 3 movies, space that appears to do nothing.

seams like they format the capacity of the disc even though they do not use it all:

am I the first to notice this?

 

[SamuriHL]

No. It's a known thing. It's been theorized it has to do with how the disc is laid out. If you ever have the intention of burning it back to a blank, then you want to keep the layout. If you don't, then you can rip it and then make an ISO to save space. Doing that, no, you would not be able to decrypt it after the fact, however. You would need to decrypt it as you create it.

 

[starz]

No. It's a known thing. It's been theorized it has to do with how the disc is laid out. If you ever have the intention of burning it back to a blank, then you want to keep the layout. If you don't, then you can rip it and then make an ISO to save space. Doing that, no, you would not be able to decrypt it after the fact, however. You would need to decrypt it as you create it.

I know you could burn the protected structure to a blank, I would think it would play from the blank with AnyDVD HD Decrypting it during playback. but why would I want it to be protected on a blank disc? cause if that will play on a PS3 or a stand Alone then What is the point of ACSS ?



"at $10 a blank 25 GB + $6 each for delivery and $35 a Blank DL I'm a very long long long looooonnnng ways from ever wanting to burn anything to BD-R
even if 5 turned out on the SL and 1 failed to burn that failed burn would eat my back up savings fully. I don't know why these disc's are not coming down a little at a time. even in bulk there completely outrageously priced. and most places want 3X more then I wrote above the low price is from newegg.com."

OK and if I made a ISO with AnyDVD off of the Folders ALL of the folders What would be missing that would prevent AnyDVD from being able to Decrypt it?
do the disc's partition have anything to do with it?

It's been theorized it has to do with how the disc is laid out.

theorized hmmm.. can't think of any reason why they would need 10 GB of empty space for there layout but then again I don't know. each one is 46.6 GB exactly. My theory is they formated the entire disc but then don't fill it During the mastering process. Just my guess at it.
guess I will worry about it when my 18TBs of Disk space is gone.

thx for Ur replies
starz

 

[SamuriHL]

I'm not suggesting you burn a protected structure. Why is this concept so confusing to people? (You're not alone...I had to answer this question several times in the past few days.) Is it difficult to understand that if you want to burn it all you need to do is mount it with AnyDVD enabled and burn from the mounted drive? You're still going to have the same space issue, however. Search the forum and you'll find a thread on this "wasted space" issue. Originally we thought it might be ImgBurn, but, it turns out there's an actual reason for it. The thread will explain it much better than I can.

 

[reznor]

i like your encrypted iso method but whenever i play back an encrypted iso and decrypt on the fly with anydvd i get video artefacts and blocks. if i decrypt them and playback it doesnt happen. not sure what the deal is there so i decrypt everything now. If i have to re-rip the disc so be it.