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Making a BD Movie with Nero 8 Ultra

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First, since I am a newbie to this forum, I must give much credit to Samuri for the hard work and knowledge in assembling these procedures, plus the other forum members that are continuing to contribute.

Software I use:

1. AnyDVD HD-Purchased around $123 US
2. Nero 8 Ultra-Purchased around $69( I was a Previous Nero 7 owner)
3. Nero 8 BluRay Module-Purchased around $29 US
4. TSremux-freeware

Hardware: LG 20L BluRay burner
Computer-HP Quad 6600, 3 GB Ram, 8800GT Video Card, PC cooling 750watt PSU

Vista Home Premium 32bit

1. Create 2 folders on your desktop, by right clicking, new. Name them. I use the name of the movie that I am archiving for one, and I use that name, plus Remuxed for the second folder.

2. Place movie in Bluray drive. Open SlySoft, go to Settings. For my personal preference I select the option of removing the annoying trailers and go directly to the movie. I then select, Rip movie to hard disc. For the destination directory, I use the first folder I have created with the movie name. Select Copy to DVD on AnyDVD. The program works and makes a copy of the movie with the encryption removed in the folder you have specified.

3. Once the AnyDvd program is finished, the next step, if you desire to reduce the size of the folder, is to use Tsremux. At this point you have some options: You can select Properties on the folder you have just created and look at the size of the movie. If you are going to use BD-R, or BD-RE media to store the movie you have the option of either 25 GB or 50 GB. When I look at the movie, if it is close to or slightly above 25 GB, I will use Tsremux to get it below 25 GB by selecting just the movie and a couple of sound tracks. If the movie is above 25 GB with no chance of getting it below 25 Gb you can leave everything in if you desire or reduce it in any way you want, personal preference. You can identify the movie stream usually by opening the folder and looking for the file with the biggest amount of data. This stream will contain the movie and the sound tracks you want.

3. Open Tsremux and select the folder you ripped the movie to with the name of the movie on it. Use this as the source. Use the next folder with the Remux name( or any other name) as the Output File. Since I am making a BluRay disc to use as a movie I leave the defaults in the program and the only change I make is to select Blu Ray in the Output format on the right side of the box. I usually select the movie and a couple of sound tracks by checking the boxes needed. When that is done, select Remux and the program starts.

4. When Remux is finished, I look at the folder size by selecting properties. Depending on the size, I will use a BD-R or BD-RE 25 or 50 GB disc.( Unless you are very rich, I would recommend using a BD-RE first to see if everything works as advertised: Coasters at $12-35 can be costly.) I then double click on the folder and open it. I then double click on the item and it will open and show 2 more folders: BDMV and CERTIFICATE.

5. I open Nero 8 Ultra and go to Nero ROM. I select Blu Ray disc( UDF), no multisession and then select NEW. A compilation screen opens up. I then select BMDV and CERTIFCATE from my remux folder and drag and drop into the compilation window. The size of the compilation will be shown at the bottom of the screen. Make sure you have the correct BD media in your burner. Select Burn and you will get another compilation screen with the Multisession tab highlighted. Now select the UDF tab. It defaults to Automatic. It is important to change this so the copied movie can play in standalone players. Select Automatic settings and change it to Manual( yes, you are now an advanced user!!) The UDF type should default to Physical partition. Select UDF 2.5, then select Burn. The program starts. My experience is that it can take about and hour and a half to burn a 30GB movie. It depends on your burner, Ram, media, etc.

Note: there are some movies where it is very difficult to identify the main movie stream, like Enchanted. I haven't figured that out, but I am sure Samuri knows how to do it in his guide. I just give up and use a 50 GB and nuke the whole movie.

5. When the movie is finished, I use Nero Showtime to test it. I put the movie back in the BluRay drive, open Nero Showtime and see if it plays. I have had success using these procedures. I haven't copied a BD-RE disc to a BD-R yet, but I will. It first has to pass the BD-RE test. I will use Nero ROM and select the BluRay disc copy option.
 
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I do in fact know how to do seamless branching titles. :) You'll need to use eac3to (which is command line) and run it against your original. Something like "eac3to d:". That will spit out the largest mpls playlists. Identify which one belongs to your main movie (look at the duration to get a hint on that) and then open the mpls file from the playlist folder with TSMuxer. It will then join them for you without any additional work.

Also, it's not necessary to rip first. This just takes longer and takes up more space. You can work directly off the original disc with AnyDVD enabled.

Other than that, this all looks really good. Well done.
 
Thanks Samuri!

Now we need 50 GB BD-R's for around $15 to jump start the media sales.
 
thanks but...

Sorry to be such a noob.. :) but when in TsRemux what file do I select to convert?
 
I was reading your e-mail, and I am totally confused by this statement.

>>I then select, Rip movie to hard disc.

What is this???? Where is this button. There is nothing about rip in the settings, and the buttons on the bottom do not list rip, but Default, order OK and cancel.


I have tried to use this program over and over. I stick a disk in, it detects it tells me about its protection, but nothing else. I have tried to stick a blank DVD or blue ray into the second drive, it says no disk. (Yet my other programs recognize the blanks.)

So, since this program did not come with directions, just a small file with not directions on how to use it. What does this program do? Is it like DVD shrink? It writes it to disk, or is it like DVD fab that copies the disk. I find no where it says to put the file, Under drive selection I have two drives listed, the reader and burner, with checks next to the box, but no go. If I click the OK, it just gives me window that tells me the setting will not be saved, because it is not registered, and shuts itself down.

SO HOW DOES ONE GET THIS PROGRAM TO DO SOMETHING MORE THAN TELLING ME ABOUT THE DISK?

I would love to buy it, if it actually does something like making a copy of the disk to my hard disk, or directly copies the disk, but I don't see anythying happening.

So does anyone have any hints on how to use this program?
 
Majorhavok99 said:
I was reading your e-mail, and I am totally confused by this statement.

>>I then select, Rip movie to hard disc.

What is this???? Where is this button. There is nothing about rip in the settings, and the buttons on the bottom do not list rip, but Default, order OK and cancel.


I have tried to use this program over and over. I stick a disk in, it detects it tells me about its protection, but nothing else. I have tried to stick a blank DVD or blue ray into the second drive, it says no disk. (Yet my other programs recognize the blanks.)

So, since this program did not come with directions, just a small file with not directions on how to use it. What does this program do? Is it like DVD shrink? It writes it to disk, or is it like DVD fab that copies the disk. I find no where it says to put the file, Under drive selection I have two drives listed, the reader and burner, with checks next to the box, but no go. If I click the OK, it just gives me window that tells me the setting will not be saved, because it is not registered, and shuts itself down.

SO HOW DOES ONE GET THIS PROGRAM TO DO SOMETHING MORE THAN TELLING ME ABOUT THE DISK?

I would love to buy it, if it actually does something like making a copy of the disk to my hard disk, or directly copies the disk, but I don't see anythying happening.

So does anyone have any hints on how to use this program?
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:doh: It really helps to do a little reading first. I'm assuming you are talking about AnyDVD HD. Well, even reading the download text gives alot of info on what this does. But for the sake of.... nothing actually, responding to this question defies reason, but here goes. AnyDVD and it's high definition version AnyDVD HD is an application that removes content protection from the standard definition and high definition media that you buy. Fire up AnyDVD HD, stick the media in the drive and AnyDVD HD removes the digital shaft managemnt schemes on the disk (also known as DRM).

This allows the user some options:
1) Backup the purchased media so that the physical disk doesn't have to be used for long term playback. The "rip" function that you speak of helps in this regard, but it is advised to use something like ImageBurn or another software to actually do the "ripping" as AnyDVD HD is not really intended to rip software.
2) Allows you to play high definition media without having to spend money on HDCP compliant hardware. The hardware people have is more than sufficient to play high definition media. HDCP is an artificial restriction intended to "protect" consumers from themselves.
3) In some cases, allows you to play high definition media at all. Because BD+ is more concerned with profit and control than consumer rights or ease of use, each iteration causes headaches for many consumers that just want to play thier media. AnyDVDHD removes these restrictions and problems so that people can "just watch the freakin' movie".

All these considerations mean that you need to use something in addition to AnyDVD HD as this program is meant to work behind the scenes and not really have any user functionality of its own. It's true that things such as a ripper and such were thrown in, but those are concessions by the designers/programmers of the software and not in line with the true nature of what AnyDVD HD is.

Now since you overlooked tons of information to even ask such a question, everything i've said probably went over your head, but for what it's worth...hope it helps.
 
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Thanks Jimbo for the guide. I just tried it this morning and it worked successfully. I have two questions. I wanted to know if their is a way to create a Blu-ray disc via Nero express. I've used that many time in making DVD's and like the simple interface and ease of that program. My second question is their a way to create a Blu-ray disc with just certain parts of the source Blu-ray like certain segments of the film and/or the behind the scenes video like one is able to do with DVD's?
 
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My second question is their a way to create a Blu-ray disc with just certain parts of the source Blu-ray like certain segments of the film and/or the behind the scenes video like one is able to do with DVD's?

yes

It is done just like when you choose just the MOVIE ONLY part of the source disk. If you use Bdinfo to find the certain segments you are looking for, such as the PLAYLIST or the M2TS files associated with that segment. Then you load the segment you chose in the form of a PLAYLIST or M2TS file or files associated with that segment into TSMUXER and create or build your special segment in a compliant BD structure.

Burn to BD-5 or BD-9 or BD-R or play with you software player on your media center computer.
 
Thanks fast eddie, but alas..a little over my head. When I created my "first" blu-ray copy I followed Samurais intructions without using the TSMUXER program. It sounded a little too hard for me. Right now I haven't gotten to the point were the movie had to be trimmed under 25GB and I prefer to rip the movie intact with no compression. I understand right now that TSMUXER is the program right now that is needed to pick out the certain segments that one wants, but its just a little to complicated or hard for me as this is my first burn in the high definition area. I was hoping for a program like DVDF** were the user just uses the interface to pick out what they wanted and the program "decrypts" and picks them out automatically. Right now my personal opinion is DVDF** is the better ripper for DVD's at has a simple user interface were one can select what they want, but right now I think AnyDVD HD is the only and best ripper right now for ripping Blu-ray. Even though I wish the interface had more "meat" like DVDF**s AnyDVD HD's ripping engine is much stronger. It rips Blu-rays without a sweat :clap:
 
Try the new beta of AnyDVD. It has a new Rip to image... option. Now you can rip to ISOs right from the AnyDVD interface. Sweet! And give it time...slysoft will create something that will facilitate selecting streams and all that for BD's. It's *VERY* complicated to undertake such a program. The movie only thing isn't too difficult. It can be done off the original disc. You need bdinfo and tsmuxer in addition to AnyDVD. See my guide which has a link to PrincipalityFusions' more thorough guide if you want assistance.
 
ANYDVD rip to image, nero 8

I enjoted the description of ripping and discussion of burning using Nero 8.
Now that Rip to ISO is available, can you please update us on using Nero to burn from image? Thanks!
 
So, create the ISO on your hard drive with AnyDVD (making sure keep protection is UNchecked). Open nero, select burn image, and select the ISO.
 
iso

That result does not seem to be playable on my ps3, but useable through powerdvd
 
Well, very few of us use Nero for this, so, none of us will be surprised. We all recommend the freeware ImgBurn for this. Works much better.
 
causes no problems for me in Nero 8 burning an ISO created using AnyDVD HD's ISO ripper onto either a single or dual layer BD-RE. They play back fine in my PS3. What have you got ticked in AnyDVD HD when you make the ISO?
 
Adbear said:
causes no problems for me in Nero 8 burning an ISO created using AnyDVD HD's ISO ripper onto either a single or dual layer BD-RE. They play back fine in my PS3. What have you got ticked in AnyDVD HD when you make the ISO?
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That's right, I forgot you use Nero to write them out. Hmmm, that's weird then.
 
I don't normally, but I did it to test and it gave no problems, I usually use Imgburn
 
Ah, ok. I haven't ever burned a BD-RE with Nero. I always use ImgBurn and it always works. I would assume Nero should be fine, but, if they're having problems it would be a good idea to try ImgBurn to rule out bad media or other problems I think.
 
Settings

My Thanks to all!:bowdown:

Settings:
Keep protection unchecked

Enable Blu-ray checked
Remove BD+ protection checked
Prohibited User Operatations checked
Remove annoying adverts and trailers checked

Remove Region code set to Automatic

STATUS of resulting Disc:
Summary for drive D: (AnyDVD 6.4.7.6)
HL-DT-ST BD-REGGW-H20L YL04 000822081287MB2907
Drive (Hardware) Region: 1

Media is a Blu-Ray disc.

Total size: 24438784 sectors (47732 MBytes)
Video Blu-ray label: #######_J####_4_D1 (I Changed this entry)
Media is not AACS protected.
Can't determine region code!
Blu-ray disc Region set to A!
Possible Blu-ray Java region lock removed!
Blu-ray Java signatures fixed!
Removed UOPs!


I have tried using Nero 8 and IMGBURN to copy the ANYDVD HDDVD ISO to blank BD-re 50 GB discs. The result is playable using Power DVD 8 on the computer. I have also tried ripping to file folder's BDMV and Certificate and burning it that way as well with no success on the PS-3.

All these discs are not recognized by my PS-3. The access icon comes up, then disappears without recognizing the disc.

I have read discussion of a Java applet called CPISTRIP. This seems to describe the reset of protection bits that prevent the PS 3 from reading a BD-RE. I have had no success finding this applet however.

My goal is simply to create an ISO using ANYDVD that is UDF 2.5 complient
and then burn the result to a 50GB BD-RE that will be recognized by a PS-3.

Any help appreciated!
 
I have no problems with single or dual layer BD-re's on my PS3, and I've watched hundreds of films recorded onto them I've done it from unprotected ISO made using AnyDVD HD and from folders on the hardrive using Imgburn and setting the UDF to 2.5. You don't need that applet if you make the disc correctly in the first place.

I think I see your problem, uncheck "Remove annoying adverts and trailers" and re-rip from the original disc
 
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