Feature Request - Offline Integration

Discussion in 'AnyStream' started by zero269, Oct 26, 2020.

  1. zero269

    zero269 Well-Known Member

    Hello RedFox,

    I'm not sure how plausible this even is, however, I did think about it and figured I would throw it your way to see if this is something RedFox has already thought about themselves.

    I have a very basic understanding on how AS works. So, I'm wondering if it's possible to integrate "offline streaming" with the Prime App for Windows 10?

    I wonder if it's possible to grab the playback and decrypt that way? This allows for content to be played offline, and not worry about the limits due to online streaming concerns.

    It's just a thought...
     
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  2. winoni71

    winoni71 Member

    I was wondering the same thing, but I'm guessing if they could they would have already. It's likely that the decryption is completely different when done offline.
     
  3. supersonik

    supersonik Member

    either you want to stream something so you have to pay someone to have the service/s running to get the content from A to B
    or you store everything you want to watch on drives for offline watching and or LAN streaming.

    thats it.
     
  4. winoni71

    winoni71 Member

    I don't understand what you're saying, what does this have to do with the request of offline integration?
     
  5. supersonik

    supersonik Member

    you're request makes no sense
    and you dont need to understand what as does in no point to know this.

    when you're offline
    you're offline, disconnected from the internet, the world wide web.

    so you dont get amazon app or as running because you're offline.

    if you cut your cable
    or your wifi adapter gets broken you're offline


    you can either watch your amazon stuff directly in the app/s of amazon or the webrowser.
    or
    you download the file with as.

    simple as 123
     
  6. winoni71

    winoni71 Member

    What in the world are you talking about?
    First of all, this was not my request, zero269 made it.

    Second of all, by "offline integration" we both clearly meant the possibility for AnyStream to decrypt the files downloaded by the official Primevideo app, with the advantages of not being detected in any way by anyone, no download limit (since the download would be done by the official app) and greater download speed.
    No one suggested you could magically download stuff without an internet connection.
     
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  7. 0x0x0x0x0

    0x0x0x0x0 Well-Known Member


    Don't know about the App on Windows 10, but the Prime App on iPad "best" quality is lower than streaming quality (presumably, one of the reasons is to deter people from deciphering the downloaded content, and if they do it's lower quality)...
     
  8. winoni71

    winoni71 Member

    The app on Windows 10 downloads at the best video quality (CBR) up to 1080p, but the audio is only stereo. (https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=GUVGB3QMQRYRERYW)

    These are the technical specifications of the video of a tv show episode that I downloaded both with the official app and with AnyStream.

    Official app
    Video
    ID : 1
    Format : AVC
    Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
    Format profile : High@L4
    Format settings : CABAC / 4 Ref Frames
    Format settings, CABAC : Yes
    Format settings, Reference : 4 frames
    Codec ID : encv / avc1
    Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
    Duration : 46 min 1 s
    Bit rate mode : Constant
    Bit rate : 6 144 kb/s
    Nominal bit rate : 10 000 kb/s
    Maximum bit rate : 21.2 Mb/s
    Width : 1 920 pixels
    Height : 1 080 pixels
    Display aspect ratio : 16:9
    Frame rate mode : Constant
    Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
    Color space : YUV
    Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
    Bit depth : 8 bits
    Scan type : Progressive
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.124
    Stream size : 1.98 GiB (100%)
    Encryption : Encrypted
    Color range : Limited
    Color primaries : BT.709
    Transfer characteristics : BT.709
    Matrix coefficients : BT.709
    Codec configuration box : avcC

    AnyStream
    Video
    ID : 1
    Format : AVC
    Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
    Format profile : High@L4
    Format settings : CABAC / 4 Ref Frames
    Format settings, CABAC : Yes
    Format settings, Reference : 4 frames
    Codec ID : avc1
    Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
    Duration : 46 min 1 s
    Bit rate : 3 406 kb/s
    Maximum bit rate : 22.1 Mb/s
    Width : 1 920 pixels
    Height : 1 080 pixels
    Display aspect ratio : 16:9
    Frame rate mode : Constant
    Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
    Color space : YUV
    Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
    Bit depth : 8 bits
    Scan type : Progressive
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.069
    Stream size : 1.10 GiB (84%)
    Encoded date : UTC 2020-10-27 23:43:10
    Tagged date : UTC 2020-10-27 23:43:10
    Color range : Limited
    Color primaries : BT.709
    Transfer characteristics : BT.709
    Matrix coefficients : BT.709
    Codec configuration box : avcC
     
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  9. 0x0x0x0x0

    0x0x0x0x0 Well-Known Member


    Why do you think CBR is best video quality---you're wasting energy when you don't need to, and lacking energy when you do? (The iPad app also has "best" video quality but its "estimated" file size is smaller that the estimated streaming size, and playback is notably blurrier, perhaps Win App is better, is it relying on SGX/TPM?)
     
  10. zero269

    zero269 Well-Known Member

    Well said winoni71... :cool:

    Perhaps supersuckit should read slower next time to allow some of that good ol' fashion critical thinking to kick in before spouting off.
     
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  11. zero269

    zero269 Well-Known Member

    An excellent find winoni71. Thanks for sharing. I never used the app myself. I watch from my AppleTV 4K in the living room or my iPad, so I would have never guessed this limitation would be in place. That's pretty pathetic on Amazons part considering surround sound has been supported by computer systems for a very long time now.

    Oh, well. Forget about this as a possibility for now. However, I am still curious as to the developers opinions on if it would be possible to even interface with the App and decrypt the content offline. That would still be pretty amazing.
     
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  12. winoni71

    winoni71 Member

    Agreed, I lost all interest in this when I found out.
    Better to have slower download speed with 5.1 audio than the opposite.
     
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