AVCHD encoding

Discussion in 'AnyDVD HD (Blu-ray issues)' started by HD43, May 23, 2007.

  1. HD43

    HD43 Well-Known Member

    Anyone successfully converted HD-DVD files to AVCHD with Nero and retained full 5.1 sound?
     
  2. HD43

    HD43 Well-Known Member

    I guess not...

    with PS3's new update these converted files could be streamed from your computer HDD to the PS3 and to your TV or proj.

    In theory.
     
  3. colinhunt

    colinhunt Well-Known Member

    With streaming in mind, I tried to author some AVCHD files with the latest NeroVision. Unfortunately the bugger keeps on crashing, and has yet to produce a single AVCHD file.
     
  4. HD43

    HD43 Well-Known Member

    Is that a program glitch or your set-up?
     
  5. colinhunt

    colinhunt Well-Known Member

    Hard to say really. The PC is working fine with plenty of other video applications, so...
     
  6. HD43

    HD43 Well-Known Member

    Would be neat to stream HD-DVD converted to AVCHD to the PS3.

    Fry's have the Nero 7 enhanced to $70 with a $50 rebate right now so I'm off to get one and try it out.


    No HD movie left behind. :agree:
     
  7. colinhunt

    colinhunt Well-Known Member

    Honestly, I don't see the point in re-encoding stuff. All current video codecs are by nature lossy, which means that every encoding diminishes image quality.

    Anyway, I uninstalled Nero 7, cleaned registry and re-installed it and managed to encode a short video clip to AVCHD. The re-encode took forever with the best possible quality settings on a non-overclocked C2D E6400. Burned the result on a DVD and placed the disc in PS3, which sees it as a data disc. You can, however, navigate to STREAM directory and play files there individually. The result looked pretty good.

    MediaHome is unable to stream AVCHD content, it seems.
     
  8. DanITman

    DanITman Member

    The point is that most movies are in 1080p and not all TV's play in 1080p If you rencode you can then backup your disk to a standard DVD at only 720p resolution and you don't lose any quality at all and it still fits on a normal DVD disc.
     
  9. HD43

    HD43 Well-Known Member

    MediaHome is unable to stream AVCHD content, it seems.


    That's a bitch.

    Someone on the PS3 forum said they could stream AVCHD from their PC.

    The point is that it will allow HD-DVD to be watched on your PS3 so you don't have to hook up your computer to your TV or Proj through a hub or whatever to play from your PC.

    The alternative is an ext HDD to PS3.
     
  10. colinhunt

    colinhunt Well-Known Member

    You lose only half of the resolution. Do the math. 1920x1080 pixels <> 1280x720 pixels. And again, all video encoding codecs are by nature lossy, i.e. they throw something away every time. You might not notice it, especially on a small screen, but every re-encode loses some quality.
     
    Last edited: May 26, 2007
  11. colinhunt

    colinhunt Well-Known Member

    Wow. That's a hell of a lot of work. I just place the HD DVD in a HD DVD player and watch the movie. Oh, and why would you need a hub? Just put the HD DVD disc in the HD DVD drive which is connected to your PC. Why the need to rip discs to a HDD and try to view them with PS3? The effort spent in ripping and re-encoding/transcoding has to be greater than connecting your PC to a TV or a projector.
     
    Last edited: May 26, 2007
  12. HD43

    HD43 Well-Known Member

    We're not all loaded with cash like you Colin.


    Point is this avoids the need for HD burners and HD blank media.


    Your entire HD collection could be streamed to your PS3.

    I just reencoded a 720p WMV of Amazon to AVC 720p, burned it to DVD, played it on my PS3 and projected it on a big movie screen and it looks as good as the Blu Ray Planet Earth series.

    There's nothing in it, seriously.

    http://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/9755.cfm

    Also, try downloading the latest Nero 7 update that was released a few days ago.


    Most people's DVD collection wil consist of recoded DVDs via Shrink or Clone or Recode anyway. A HD or BD could be spread across multiple DVDs (Recode does this automatically)
     
    Last edited: May 26, 2007
  13. colinhunt

    colinhunt Well-Known Member

    I'm not loaded with cash, and there's no need to be, either. If one has a fast PC for re-encoding, it's more than likely fast enough for HD/BD playback. A HD DVD drive is less than $200.

    I still don't get it. You have the disc right there in front of you. Why the need for burners and blank media?

    BD Planet Earth is full 1080p rez and it's a direct source high bitrate multipass encode. You're comparing that to a low bitrate WMV-sourced 720p re-encode on large projection screen, no less. Honestly, if you can't see a difference, you need to get your eyes checked.
     
  14. colinhunt

    colinhunt Well-Known Member

    I certainly hope that's not true. My collection most certainly doesn't. Neither does any of my friends' collections. Perhaps it's only your buddies who've stooped to that level.
     
  15. HD43

    HD43 Well-Known Member

    What's with the hostility, Colin?
     
  16. colinhunt

    colinhunt Well-Known Member

    I would like to think Slysoft created AnyDVD HD version so people are able to view their legally purchased BD/HD media on non-HDCP equipment - and only for that.
     
  17. HD43

    HD43 Well-Known Member

    Amazon WMV is free to download by even you my friend.

    Courtesy of Microsoft.
     
  18. Peer

    Peer Redfox Development Team Staff Member

    Well, no, not only.
    It is also made for people owning an HTPC and who want to have their movies on HDD, so they can simply browse their movies with the RC and don't have to keep swapping (HD-)DVDs.
    Or for people who like backup copies for safety (scratches are more dangerous than ever with HD/BD).
    Or for people who have equipment in their living room and in the bedroom, who want to have their most precious movies in both.
    Or... well, there are several reasons - some not yet "doable", due to the lack of transcoders and such...
     
  19. HD43

    HD43 Well-Known Member

    Has anyone reencoded a HD-DVD file to AVCHD using Nero 7 ultra edition enhanced (May 21 update) recode?

    Do you know if Nero 7 accepts this file type to recode?

    (Colin don't answer)
     
  20. amiga_man

    amiga_man Member


    I keep seeing people wanting and trying to stream HD video from their PC, but you must realize that you're at the mercy of the PC's playback capacity and resources in addition to the program doing the streaming. And don't forget your LAN connection. If you get a true media server for HD playback, then you got something going, but you could just take that money and buy a BD burner, burn a BD disc with no issues or limitations. Just a thought.