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VCD inert in Win11?

Those remote diagnosis are a PITA. Almost impossible to cure. He should start with my suggestion but then I'm really out of ideas. "Storage controllers" as mentioned by James has no exclamation mark. So not a hot lead.
 
coopervid said:
Nothing besides that KillerNetworkService and KillerAnalysisService seems to be special. Do you need these? If not, I would try to uninstall those. Uninstall VCD and then try to reinstall VCD.
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"Killer" is the "cool" name of the Intel network driver, so I'd rather stick with it... :D
(Why would a network driver interfere with a CD-Rom driver anyway?)
 
James said:
I have no idea, why VCD doesn't want to run. Uninstall, reboot, try again...
EDIT:
VCD itself seems to run fine. Look under "storage controllers" in device manager. Check Windows system log.
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Uninstalling, rebooting and trying again (repeatedly) are things I've already tried before first posting here...

And yes, VCD runs fine, except it doesn't load its drivers.

Windows logs don't mention anything.
 
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Kurt321 said:
"Killer" is the "cool" name of the Intel network driver, so I'd rather stick with it... :D
(Why would a network driver interfere with a CD-Rom driver anyway?)
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You are right. I was not familiar with those and sometimes something "goofy" can interfere. Do you have any CD / DVD burning software installed on your PC? Usually some of those programs can interfere.
 
Kurt321 said:
Uninstalling, rebooting and trying again (repeatedly) are things I've already tried before first posting here...

And yes, VCD runs fine, except it doesn't load its drivers.

Windows logs don't mention anything.
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It does load the driver. Check under "Storage Controllers".
EDIT: The non-loading CD-ROM "driver" is a "Windows Thing".
 
coopervid said:
You are right. I was not familiar with those and sometimes something "goofy" can interfere. Do you have any CD / DVD burning software installed on your PC? Usually some of those programs can interfere.
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Well, I do have CloneCD (old version) and CDBurnerXP (recent version), but since there is no physical CD drive present I use them very rarely. Both work fine BTW.
(The point of VCD is to allow me to play old games which do a CD check, without having to carry an external USB CD drive + the game CDs with me.)
 
@James , could it be that an old version of elbyCDIO.dll is causing the issues since he uses an old version of CloneCD?
 
Are they? Strange. Must be because this is a new laptop, and I didn't find the installation file of the version I had. Anyway, I checked:
I uninstalled VCD, rebooted
I uninstalled CloneCD, rebooted
(I also uninstalled AnyDVD since it started asking for a license)
I installed VCD again, rebooted
No change.
 
Kurt321 said:
Are they? Strange. Must be because this is a new laptop, and I didn't find the installation file of the version I had. Anyway, I checked:
I uninstalled VCD, rebooted
I uninstalled CloneCD, rebooted
(I also uninstalled AnyDVD since it started asking for a license)
I installed VCD again, rebooted
No change.
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Check under "Storage Controllers".
 
coopervid said:
@James , could it be that an old version of elbyCDIO.dll is causing the issues since he uses an old version of CloneCD?
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No. VCD driver is loaded and running. I think. OP, please check under "Storage Controllers". Check Windows system event log for warnings or errors.
It is the *Windows* CD-ROM driver, which fails to load. I assume the same would happen with a physical drive.
 
James said:
No. VCD driver is loaded and running. I think. OP, please check under "Storage Controllers". Check Windows system event log for warnings or errors.
It is the *Windows* CD-ROM driver, which fails to load. I assume the same would happen with a physical drive.
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It does appears under Storage Controllers all right, no exclamation mark.
And as I said further up, there are no "warning" or "error" log events about it. None that I've spotted that is, but given I've rebooted today half a dozen times I had lots of nice short-time run periods to check for anomalies.

Guys, I really appreciate you've spent your weekend trying to help me, but I guess we should leave it at it. It's some kind of Win11 incompatibility.
I think I'll give up, especially since I'm afraid many of those games won't even start on Win11 because of their old, now incompatible copy protections... I've heard rumors about that.

I guess I'll try to set something up with VirtualBox, I have some WinXP VMs.

Once again, thank you all very much! You're exceptional...
 
Kurt321 said:
It does appears under Storage Controllers all right, no exclamation mark.
And as I said further up, there are no "warning" or "error" log events about it. None that I've spotted that is, but given I've rebooted today half a dozen times I had lots of nice short-time run periods to check for anomalies.

Guys, I really appreciate you've spent your weekend trying to help me, but I guess we should leave it at it. It's some kind of Win11 incompatibility.
I think I'll give up, especially since I'm afraid many of those games won't even start on Win11 because of their old, now incompatible copy protections... I've heard rumors about that.

I guess I'll try to set something up with VirtualBox, I have some WinXP VMs.

Once again, thank you all very much! You're exceptional...
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I also suggest you try it in a VM. Good luck! James posted long time ago that you can mount a CCD with VCD and then make an ISO of the CCD with CloneCD. You could also try that and then run the game (hopefully) in Win11. And I hate Win11. I reverted to Win10.
 
coopervid said:
mount a CCD with VCD and then make an ISO of the CCD with CloneCD.
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That wouldn't work, most games I'm thinking of use some annoying copy protection system, which is why I had to make CCD copies in the first place. A simple ISO of the CDs wouldn't be recognized (I could easily make one, I still have all the original CDs).

I hate Win11 too, but as I bought a new computer it came with Win11. I don't use it, and if I didn't have all those old games (20+!) I would had deleted the partition. Last user-friendly Windows was WinXP. Insecure, but user-friendly.

Anyway, thanks for trying!
 
Kurt321 said:
That wouldn't work, most games I'm thinking of use some annoying copy protection system, which is why I had to make CCD copies in the first place. A simple ISO of the CDs wouldn't be recognized (I could easily make one, I still have all the original CDs).

I hate Win11 too, but as I bought a new computer it came with Win11. I don't use it, and if I didn't have all those old games (20+!) I would had deleted the partition. Last user-friendly Windows was WinXP. Insecure, but user-friendly.

Anyway, thanks for trying!
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For me Win7 was the last user friendly version but with OpenShell Win10 is equivalent.

Just give the ISO conversion a try. Maybe CloneCD has some tricks to make a working ISO from its CCDs. Sorry- I don't do games.
 
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