Dal1980
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Hi Guys
I've not got my old CD-ROM's out for quite some time but had an urge to backup all my old games. These are from the MS-DOS, Windows 95, Windows 98(SE) and Windows XP era so quite a span of time.
I unfortunately lost a bunch of games over the years due to damage or just MIA and although GoG + Steam can get me the latest port some of them are either bad ports (new bugs) or they have tried to improve it somehow (which is most of the time not an improvement). On top of this, I have to pay nearly the same price I got the original game for (in the cases of getting the original in a sale or on White Label/Hit Squad etc) and that really bugs me since I'm sitting in front of the original CD.
Anyway....
I've got 90% of everything copied using a trial version of an CD->ISO creator (BurnAware) which was something I was just going to buy had it done 100%. This is how I came across RedBox/CloneCD as I was on the lookout for some better software.
I've still hit the same issues and I've wondered if the media CD is maybe the problem. To test this I created a VM for the game and setup Win98SE and sure enough the game works directly from the disc but not when I try the ISO I created from the Clone process.
So there is definitely some kind of CD protection and I'm just wondering how to get around it. If this is something that CloneCD is able to do then I'll buy it. I am in the evaluation stage still so have a little time to figure this out and test.
Can anyone help?
Here's the copy log (I chose to make a copy of a protected CD)
Points of note (probably verbose):
1. The Game is Delta Force Land Warrior (A Win95/Win98SE CD-ROM game using DirectX (9? I think))
2. The clone process takes some time at the start of the CD and flags the Fast Error Skip so presuming that the copy protection is on track 1(? I don't know much of what I'm saying here so please forgive me if it makes no sense)
3. I have about 100 games copied successfully but this is 1 of 12 games that seem to have similar issues. BTW, the CD's in most cases do not even have so much as a hairline scratch and have been kept in a CD holder case away from sunlight if this information helps settle anything.
4. Also, can I make it create an ISO instead of an IMG file (I did use the free Virtual CloneDrive to convert it but wanted to skip the additional step if I could)?
5. Copy process takes approx 35 mins so please bare that in mind if there are any "suck it and see" types of debugging going on lol
6. I'm using a USB Blue Ray Player from LG (HL-DT-ST BD-RE BP50NB40 USB Device) https://www.lg.com/us/burners-drives/lg-BP50NB40-external-blu-ray-dvd-drive
7. I don't have access to any other CD-ROM drive since part of the reason I'm making CD backups is that my options are starting to become quite limited in using CD's. ISO files work fine in most cases with DOSBOX (PC MS-DOS Emulator) or in a Virtual Machine.
8. I'm running Windows 10 if you need to know that.
Many thanks
Dal
I've not got my old CD-ROM's out for quite some time but had an urge to backup all my old games. These are from the MS-DOS, Windows 95, Windows 98(SE) and Windows XP era so quite a span of time.
I unfortunately lost a bunch of games over the years due to damage or just MIA and although GoG + Steam can get me the latest port some of them are either bad ports (new bugs) or they have tried to improve it somehow (which is most of the time not an improvement). On top of this, I have to pay nearly the same price I got the original game for (in the cases of getting the original in a sale or on White Label/Hit Squad etc) and that really bugs me since I'm sitting in front of the original CD.
Anyway....
I've got 90% of everything copied using a trial version of an CD->ISO creator (BurnAware) which was something I was just going to buy had it done 100%. This is how I came across RedBox/CloneCD as I was on the lookout for some better software.
I've still hit the same issues and I've wondered if the media CD is maybe the problem. To test this I created a VM for the game and setup Win98SE and sure enough the game works directly from the disc but not when I try the ISO I created from the Clone process.
So there is definitely some kind of CD protection and I'm just wondering how to get around it. If this is something that CloneCD is able to do then I'll buy it. I am in the evaluation stage still so have a little time to figure this out and test.
Can anyone help?
Here's the copy log (I chose to make a copy of a protected CD)
Code:
I 15:16:15 CloneCD Version 5.3.4.0 started!
I 15:16:15 ElbyCDIO Driver 6.1.1.3
I 15:16:15 ElbyCDIO.dll 6.1.9.1
I 15:16:15 CCDDriver.dll 5.3.0.1
I 15:16:15 ElbyECC.dll 4.0.0.0
I 15:16:15 WriteDVD.dll 2.6.6.3
W 15:16:20 Registered to: UNREGISTERED
W 15:16:20 21 of 21 Trial Days remaining!
I 15:16:20 Searching for SCSI/ATAPI devices...
I 15:16:20 Device Scan found 1 CD-ROMs and 1 CD-Writers!
I 15:18:07 Starting copy from HL-DT-ST BD-RE BP50NB40 to D:\Zombie3\CDs\CloneCDTest2\DELTAFORCELW.ccd
I 15:18:07 Read Speed for Data Tracks: Maximum
I 15:18:07 Read Speed for Audio Tracks: Maximum
I 15:18:07 Read SubChannel Data from Data Tracks: No
I 15:18:07 Read SubChannel Data from Audio Tracks: No
I 15:18:07 Fast Error Skip: Yes
I 15:18:07 Don't report read errors: Yes
I 15:18:07 Intelligent Bad Sector Scanner: Yes
I 15:18:09 CD contains CD-Text: No
I 15:18:09 Reading Track 1... (Blocks 0-340984)
I 15:18:37 Fast Error Skip has been enabled automatically!
I 15:25:53 Fast Error Skip has been disabled automatically!
I 15:43:43 Duration of operation: 00:25:34
I 15:43:43 Average Speed: 521 kBytes/s (2.96)
I 15:43:43 Reading finished!
Points of note (probably verbose):
1. The Game is Delta Force Land Warrior (A Win95/Win98SE CD-ROM game using DirectX (9? I think))
2. The clone process takes some time at the start of the CD and flags the Fast Error Skip so presuming that the copy protection is on track 1(? I don't know much of what I'm saying here so please forgive me if it makes no sense)
3. I have about 100 games copied successfully but this is 1 of 12 games that seem to have similar issues. BTW, the CD's in most cases do not even have so much as a hairline scratch and have been kept in a CD holder case away from sunlight if this information helps settle anything.
4. Also, can I make it create an ISO instead of an IMG file (I did use the free Virtual CloneDrive to convert it but wanted to skip the additional step if I could)?
5. Copy process takes approx 35 mins so please bare that in mind if there are any "suck it and see" types of debugging going on lol
6. I'm using a USB Blue Ray Player from LG (HL-DT-ST BD-RE BP50NB40 USB Device) https://www.lg.com/us/burners-drives/lg-BP50NB40-external-blu-ray-dvd-drive
7. I don't have access to any other CD-ROM drive since part of the reason I'm making CD backups is that my options are starting to become quite limited in using CD's. ISO files work fine in most cases with DOSBOX (PC MS-DOS Emulator) or in a Virtual Machine.
8. I'm running Windows 10 if you need to know that.
Many thanks
Dal