Project Phoenix v3.0

[Ch3vr0n]

After a double power loss a few months ago that fried my current system (see forum sig) motherboard and the subsequent insurance claim the parts for it's successor arrived a few days ago.

Will be recycled from current system: all 3 optical drives, all 4 HDD's and 1 Samsung 970 Evo, the SATA add-in card and Asus pce-ac88 wifi card, the PSU will be upgraded to the 1600i i had bought in anticipation of upgrading the GPU to a 3090 when scalpers prevented that plan, CPU cooler and all RGB of course.

Project Phoenix 3.0 new parts

Gigabyte Z790 Aorus master
Core i9 13900k
64GB Corsair Dominator Platinum 6600Mhz
4x Samsung 970 EVO Plus 2TB (scored those on an Amazon deal for 80€ each)
Asus ROG Strix 4090 OC

I've always said in my 20yrs of building systems that once in my career I'll have THE top of the line GPU. Well that time has arrived!

Might eventually swap that 970 Evo out for a plus version too just for the fun of having matched ones. Think total storage capacity will be in the neighborhood of around 45-50TB

Curious what kinda fps I'll be looking at in cyberpunk 2077 and CloneBD.

Next plans for end of the year upgrading dual monitor setup to dual 1440p or 4k, at least 120-144hz.

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[cartman0208]

Why the Wifi card?
That Board should have ax wifi build in

 

[Ch3vr0n]

While it's 6e, it's only a dual band 2x2 channel one. The ASUS PCE-AC88 is 4x4 and I can't take 'advantage' of 6e without replacing the router too

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[Ch3vr0n]

First CloneBD results are in. BD50 (Avatar 2) to BD25. CUDA mode for decoding and encoding

Source drive: Sata 3 HD
Target Drive: Samsung 970 Evo Plus
Setting: Fastest speed (just as a test, i always use best quality)
Input speed: all 3 bars drop for a split second to 0%, then back to 100% which can be seen on the GPU in task manager. Mechanical HDD isn't fast enough to supply to the GPU lol)
FPS: btween 650-700 during main title



Source drive: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2TB
Target drive: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2TB (same drive)
Setting: Fastest Speed
Input speed: constant cap at 100%. Nvme drive is fast enough to read and write too
FPS: constant average between 620-750fps during main title processing



Source drive: Sata 3 HD
Target Drive: Samsung 970 Evo Plus
Setting: Highest Quality
Input speed: all 3 bars drop for a split second to 0% every now and then, then back to 100% which can be seen on the GPU in task manager. Mechanical HDD isn't fast enough to supply to the GPU lol)
FPS: constant around 490fps



Source drive: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2TB
Target drive: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2TB (same drive)
Setting: Highest Quality
Input speed: constant cap at 100%. Nvme drive is fast enough to read and write too
FPS: constant average between 5-600fps during main title processing



Not too shabby over my old 1080A

doubles/triples my former 1080

 

[tectpro]

@Ch3vr0n

Can you please run the following application?

https://github.com/rigaya/NVEnc/releases

The latest drivers of Nvidia are installed, and the latest NVEncC.

After you've extracted the file, please go ahead and execute the following command in cmd.
(Same folder as the extracted file)

 NVEncC64.exe --check-features > check-features.txt

It should create a check-features.txt in the same folder as the NVEncC64.exe.

Could you post the result here?

It would be interesting to see the capabilities of the GPU.

Thank you.

 

[autodidact]

@Ch3vr0n

Your new setup makes me drool... want it...
Which has better video quality GPU versus CPU?
For example x264 x265 ~ h.264 (avc) and h.265 (hevc).
It would be fun to hear what you come up with.

 

[Ch3vr0n]

Could you post the result here?

It would be interesting to see the capabilities of the GPU.

NVEncC (x64) 7.30 (r2572) by rigaya, Jun 24 2023 02:43:35 (VC 1929/Win)
  [NVENC API v12.1, CUDA 10.1]
 reader: raw, y4m, avi, avs, vpy, avsw, avhw [H.264/AVC, H.265/HEVC, MPEG2, VP8, VP9, VC-1, MPEG1, MPEG4, AV1]

Environment Info
OS : Windows 11 x64 (22621) [UTF-8]
CPU: 13th Gen Intel Core i9-13900K [5.52GHz] (8P+16E,24C/32T)
RAM: Used 13122 MB, Total 65296 MB

#0: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 (16384 cores, 2610 MHz)[PCIe4x16][536.40]
NVEnc features
Codec: H.264/AVC
Encoder Engines           2
Max Bframes               4
B Ref Mode                3 (each + only middle)
RC Modes                  63 (CQP, CBR, CBRHQ, VBR, VBRHQ)
Field Encoding            0 (no)
MonoChrome                no
FMO                       no
Quater-Pel MV             yes
B Direct Mode             yes
CABAC                     yes
Adaptive Transform        yes
Max Temporal Layers       4
Hierarchial P Frames      yes
Hierarchial B Frames      yes
Max Level                 62 (6.2)
Min Level                 10 (1)
4:4:4                     yes
Min Width                 145
Max Width                 4096
Min Height                49
Max Height                4096
Multiple Refs             yes
Max LTR Frames            8
Dynamic Resolution Change yes
Dynamic Bitrate Change    yes
Forced constant QP        yes
Dynamic RC Mode Change    no
Subframe Readback         yes
Constrained Encoding      yes
Intra Refresh             yes
Custom VBV Bufsize        yes
Dynamic Slice Mode        yes
Ref Pic Invalidiation     yes
PreProcess                no
Async Encoding            yes
Max MBs                   65536
Lossless                  yes
SAO                       no
Me Only Mode              1 (I,P frames)
Lookahead                 yes
AQ (temporal)             yes
Weighted Prediction       yes
10bit depth               no

Codec: H.265/HEVC
Encoder Engines           2
Max Bframes               5
B Ref Mode                3 (each + only middle)
RC Modes                  63 (CQP, CBR, CBRHQ, VBR, VBRHQ)
Field Encoding            0 (no)
MonoChrome                no
Quater-Pel MV             yes
B Direct Mode             no
Max Temporal Layers       0
Hierarchial P Frames      no
Hierarchial B Frames      no
Max Level                 186 (6.2)
Min Level                 30 (1)
4:4:4                     yes
Min Width                 129
Max Width                 8192
Min Height                33
Max Height                8192
Multiple Refs             yes
Max LTR Frames            7
Dynamic Resolution Change yes
Dynamic Bitrate Change    yes
Forced constant QP        yes
Dynamic RC Mode Change    no
Subframe Readback         yes
Constrained Encoding      yes
Intra Refresh             yes
Custom VBV Bufsize        yes
Dynamic Slice Mode        yes
Ref Pic Invalidiation     yes
PreProcess                no
Async Encoding            yes
Max MBs                   262144
Lossless                  yes
SAO                       yes
Me Only Mode              1 (I,P frames)
Lookahead                 yes
AQ (temporal)             yes
Weighted Prediction       yes
10bit depth               yes

Codec: AV1
Encoder Engines           2
Max Bframes               7
B Ref Mode                3 (each + only middle)
RC Modes                  3 (CQP, CBR, VBR)
Field Encoding            0 (no)
MonoChrome                no
Quater-Pel MV             yes
B Direct Mode             no
Max Temporal Layers       0
Hierarchial P Frames      no
Hierarchial B Frames      no
Max Level                 23 (7.3)
Min Level                 0 (2)
4:4:4                     no
Min Width                 192
Max Width                 8192
Min Height                128
Max Height                8192
Multiple Refs             yes
Max LTR Frames            4
Dynamic Resolution Change yes
Dynamic Bitrate Change    yes
Forced constant QP        yes
Dynamic RC Mode Change    no
Subframe Readback         yes
Constrained Encoding      no
Intra Refresh             yes
Custom VBV Bufsize        yes
Dynamic Slice Mode        no
Ref Pic Invalidiation     yes
PreProcess                no
Async Encoding            yes
Max MBs                   262144
Lossless                  no
SAO                       no
Me Only Mode              0 (no)
Lookahead                 yes
AQ (temporal)             yes
Weighted Prediction       no
10bit depth               yes


NVDec features
  H.264/AVC:  nv12, yv12
  H.265/HEVC: nv12, yv12, yv12(10bit), yv12(12bit), yuv444, yuv444(10bit), yuv444(12bit)
  MPEG1:      nv12, yv12
  MPEG2:      nv12, yv12
  MPEG4:      nv12, yv12
  VP8:        nv12, yv12
  VP9:        nv12, yv12, yv12(10bit), yv12(12bit)
  VC-1:       nv12, yv12
  AV1:        nv12, yv12, yv12(10bit)

Your new setup makes me drool... want it...
Which has better video quality GPU versus CPU?
For example x264 x265 ~ h.264 (avc) and h.265 (hevc).
It would be fun to hear what you come up with.

You can thank my fire insurance. Had 2 power outages in a matter of 2 weeks. First one damaged the motherboard of my old system. Since power outages can cause shortcircuits, and shorts can cause fires, it falls under fire insurance. It technically still worked, but it wouldn't remain stable for more than a minute. Could not reinstall windows at all. Numerous BSOD's DURING WINDOWS SETUP that relate to hardware/driver issues that should only be happening after windows is already installed. Even with everything disconnected and booting with 1 ram stick, 1 ssd it still wouldn't remain stable. Insurance sent out an expert dude went "nothing for me to do here, you (Ch3vr0n) already did the all the tests i would do. Go ahead and replace x y and z, then retest the gpu. I'm not convinced on the gpu part. If that one still doesn't work, you can replace that one too." And since due to age none of my original components were available anymore that meant an automatic upgrade to newer stuff ^^

i'm gonna get it all reimbursed except for 300€ (and excl the 4 samsung SSD's, those are a storage upgrade for myself. Hence my own cost) CPU/MB/RAM and GPU will get reimbursed.

Now as to the quality. The quality doesn't depend on the gpu/cpu. It depends on the encoder and its settings used. I don't know the flags used by CLBD.

 

[cartman0208]

The Encoding features of NVEnc are pretty much identical to my 4070Ti
Unfortunately power supply in my region is rock solid, so I had to pay for it myself

 

[Ch3vr0n]

It is in my region too, but i suspect one of my basic smart power plugs with built-in energy meter has something to do with it. Ah well, i can't complain. Was about time for an upgrade anyway, and at least its a worthy one going from a 9900k/GTX1080A to 13900k/RTX4090. As i said, in all my years of building i never had the top of the line GPU. Well now i do, and what a beast ^^. Not just in terms of performance, but size too. And won't cost me a penny

 

[Jamie]

You should invest in a good UPS

 

[Ch3vr0n]

Ups is less of an issue, needs to have a built-in surge protector, not all upsets have those. And ups' that can handle a 1600w for an hour at full draw are in the multi thousand. But that's also in the works yes.

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[autodidact]

@Ch3vr0n
Yeah, I understand. What I do with my antique setup is use AnyDVD HD, tsMuxer, BDRB and sometimes VidCoder to compress Blu-ray video to BD-title or mkv.
CPU maxes out 99-100% for hours and hours at best quality settings and GPU is not used at all.
I've read that this approach can sometimes output to better quality but that may no longer apply.
Your fire incident is very scary... a good fire insurance is a lifesaver and a good fire extinguisher should be in every home.
But... should you use it on a burning computer...? maybe not.