Hardware Compatibiliy List

Discussion in 'CD/DVD/BD Drives' started by Thomasio, Sep 9, 2007.

  1. Thomasio

    Thomasio New Member

    My knowledge in this matter is definately a bit outdated
    I remeber, there used to be a "Hardware Compatibility List" listing which drive supports which function, but that was ages ago
    Now there is a simple note, saying ClonceCD works with almost all never drives, but in the FAQ there are several notes of specific drives not supporting some specific function

    I used to buy my drives according to the list and I´ve always choosen one of the drives supporting ALL options
    I am about to buy a new PC, including a new SATA CD/DvD drive and I´d like to have again a drive which supports ALL functions of CloneCD, in reading as well as in writing

    Any suggestions?
     
  2. oldjoe

    oldjoe Well-Known Member

    I am aware of only one DVD software that has compatibility problems associated with other softwares or hardwares.
    There were some issues associated with the newer Lite-On DVDRW's but I believe those have been resolved.
    My best advice, read user's reviews on the site that are purchasing from. If that site doesn't provide that information look at the model you are considering on Newegg. You can always ask about a particular brand/model on this forum.
     
  3. Thomasio

    Thomasio New Member

    My problem is, I have no preferences, no restrictions, I need a new drive and all I want is make sure, it does what I want, which is basically a maximum of functionallity, because you never know which function you might need next week

    To give you a few examples:

    I remember from long ago, there have always been issues like, if you want to copy this type of CD, you need a reader that can read mode xy and a writer that can write mode yz, and often a specific reading mode wasn´t supported by any writer, meaning you had to have the right reader plus the right writer
    The hardware compatibility list from CloneCD was a very good overview, which drive supported which mode and I find it hard to believe that nowadays ALL drives shall support all reading and writing modes (but again, my info on this matter is outdated big time)

    On top of that (even though this isn´t really related to CloneCD) I have no clue which drives are good at all, all I know is, there are HUGE differences
    Currently I have 2 IDE drives, one Sony, one BenQ, plus a 3rd drive in my notebook, which is NEC
    The NEC is plain junk, it doesn´t read about 1/2 of all my CDs or DvDs, can´t handle 100min CDs, doesn´t recognize noname brands of recordable DvDs and what it writes no other drive can read
    The BenQ is a pretty good writer, whatever it writes is perfectly readable with any other drive, it can write even the cheapest recordable DvDs, but its a bad reader, low error correction, often fails to read CDs when they are a bit older
    The Sony is a great reader, high error correction, it can read even the oldest CDs, it can handle 100min CDs, but its a bad writer, it doesn´t recognize noname recordable DvDs and other drives can often not read what this one writes

    So what I would like is a suggestion for a drive that supports all features of CloneCD, writes as good as my BenQ and reads as good as my Sony
    I´ve tried reading some tests at several sites, I´ve also checked some sites which compare drives from different manufacturers, but I find the information they give pretty useless from a practical point of view, for example they tell a lot about speed, supported formats and included software, but rarely anything about error correction or how good other drives can read what this drive writes
     
  4. oldjoe

    oldjoe Well-Known Member

    Currently, I am using two Plextor 716SA.....two NEC 3550A....four Lite-On
    I have no issues with any of them.
     
  5. Thomasio

    Thomasio New Member

    Well, my experience is a bit different
    Plextor I have in good memory, but many years ago
    NEC I had one a few years ago and one in my notebook now, both failing big time
    Lite-On I´ve used for quite a while, up to a year ago (it used to be the most compatible from the old CloneCd compatibility list), but I´m dealing with the problem that now (about 2 years later) the CDs it has written ALL have 2 bad sectors in the same spot on ALL the CDs
    Since I´ve verified all the CDs right after burning, I assume it used to be weak sectors which have become unreadable by time
    Lucky enough its mostly backup copies, where my original is still available to make a new backup

    The more I think about it, I always get back to the same idea:
    Buy an external harddisk instead of a CD drive and save all my CDs as images there
    Virtual Clone Drive would do the trick and it seems I could avoid some big headaches with CDs
     
  6. oldjoe

    oldjoe Well-Known Member

    "A few years ago" might account for the failure. Hardware will tend to fail with usage and time.

    You verified the data to be correct after burning...2 yrs. later the data is corrupt....ALL have 2 bad sectors in the same spot on ALL the CDs =poor quality media.
     
    Last edited: Sep 11, 2007
  7. Thomasio

    Thomasio New Member

    I had one a few years ago obviously means it was new at that time, same as the one in my notebook now


    ALL CDs obviously means ALL brands of media, whether noname, Philips, Verbatim, TDK, whatever else, they ALL have 2 bad sectors in ALL CDs the Lite-On has burned while much older CDs burned with some other writer work fine
    It was definately the writer messing up here, maybe the drive was bad from start, maybe even a case of warranty, finding out 2 years later is a bit too late for anything, but you may imagine that after this experience I´m not too excited about Lite-On anymore

    However, thats all in the past, right now I´m looking forward to my new computer, I will build it myself and I just want to make sure I get a good CD/DvD drive into it
     
  8. oldjoe

    oldjoe Well-Known Member

    You said you verified the data after the burn so it should be good after an extended period. That was the reasoning for my reference to poor quality media.
    That has all the symptoms of poor quality media and not a faulty optical drive.
     
    Last edited: Sep 11, 2007