I learned how to rip, remux and backup the old way using 3319a. I saw the new Virtual clonedriver slysoft has so I tried it. I was alway a scared of using Daemon Tools the way it was discribed I thought I could have problems from the download source. I see now I can convert all my files to ISO files and they will play as a virtual drive. "That was easy!" Thanks slysoft:clap: It looks like the only thing I can't do is change movies from the couch. I have to walk to the media room and mount the new movie and start to play. Not a big deal. Also once I convert to ISO I can not covert back to a folder. This would require a rerip. I'm thinking I would never need to convert back and I would never have enough HD space to keep both.So once I convert to ISO I can always play from ISO. I can still rip,remux and then convert to ISO to save space. If I ever have issues I can rerip. Not a big deal. All I ever want on my rips is the movie and best audio source. I will want to batch covert but have to wait till I get a new HDD I only have about 300g of space left. I can see in a few months I will be setting up a server. I always thought playing from the HDD was a short term solution and when BD-R prices fell I could backup to BD-Rs. I see now that this is the way to go. I'm interested in setting up 2 versions of PDVD 3319a and the latest. When they get 8 to work and play full audio I will upgrade. I know they have a thread so I will look for it on how to setup the 2 versions.