Showing my ignorance now On the disk Rome (the TV series) the episodes have optional background information subs. These are text in a brown box with a little animation. vlc plays them fine from the disk but when playing them does not show a sub track as active. However, neither makemkv nor Clonebd shows me this track. Using procmon I can see that vlc has only the m2ts file open, there's no secret "other" file containing this track. So where does it live and how can I rip it??? Is it embedded in the video stream somehow? In that case, how can I play it back when it's in an mkv. Thanks to anyone who can educate me!