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Blazkowicz

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English forced subs are always burned in? When I copy with CloneBD I have two playlist, one burned in and one without them (for other languages). Other languages forced subs are ripped, but no English one. And normal English subtitles do not include the forced sub parts :(
Same behaviour with US version (having German version here)?
 
I only have the 3D Blu-ray, but yes, English subtitles are burnt in.
 
Thank you for the fast reply.
When creating multi-language mkv (do not want to include both videos) it is a hassle when one in the family wants to watch in English and one in another language. With EN video only it would display two subtitles which looks a bit awkward.
 
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