VLC 3 Released

Discussion in 'Third Party Products' started by David_B, Feb 10, 2018.

  1. David_B

    David_B Well-Known Member

    As many of you probably already know, VLC 3 was released yesterday. Although it adds a ton of great new features, two that I was most excited about were support for network drive browsing and BluRay menu support. Has anyone had a chance to play with BluRay support yet? Does it cooperate with original protected BluRay disks? I tried to play a rip of "The Edge of Seventeen" and it reported a region error (see attached screenshot), but it was able to play a rip of "Frozen" without any problems.
     

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  2. DrinkLyeAndDie

    DrinkLyeAndDie Retired Moderator

    Unfortunately, Java menu support fails on my Windows 10 x64 system. VLC states I don't have Java installed. In fact, I have the Java SE RE 9.0.4 x64 installed. Non-Java menus seem fine. I can't comment on playback of protected content because that requires LibAACS and I don't have it installed & configured. I always use AnyDVD in the background for protection removal.
     
  3. David_B

    David_B Well-Known Member

    I tried playing "The Edge of Seventeen" with AnyDVD opened, but it was still happening. As for your Java problem, try installing a copy of JRE 8 alongside JRE 9. I upgraded to 9 when it came out as well, but after doing so, a bunch of my programs that are dependent on Java stopped working because with the release of Java 9, the structure of the release was changed dramatically and many programs have not been updated to work with it. If you need JRE 9 for something, you can keep it installed as I have done, or you can just downgrade back to 8.
     
  4. SamuriHL

    SamuriHL Retired Moderator

    Stupid question time. Are you in fact using the x64 version of VLC? Or did you install the standard 32 bit version that downloads by default? Cause if you have Java x64 installed and you try a 32 bit version of VLC, it will no workie. :) Also, I agree, JRE 9 sucks right now for compatibility. I'd also recommend JRE 8 for now. I went back to it after NUMEROUS problems with 9.
     
  5. DrinkLyeAndDie

    DrinkLyeAndDie Retired Moderator

    Java 9 x64 with VLC x64 installed, of course. ;)

    I've only run into maybe 2 instances where Java 9 broke a program and it wasn't a big deal and I just stopped using the programs. Nonetheless, I installed Java 8 x64, as well. I'll do some testing. Not like I really plan on using VLC to watch Blu-rays, however. :)
     
  6. SamuriHL

    SamuriHL Retired Moderator

    Would still be nice to get it working as another option, however. If I have some time this morning I'll see if I can get it to work on my machine.

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  7. James

    James Redfox Development Team Staff Member

    As I am stupid, I just installed the version offered at videolan. Went to Oracle and just installed the Java version offered (some 8 version). Works. Probably both 32 bit. I have a 64bit OS, but I am playing dumb and it works. ;)

    Are these footers a "tapatalk thing"? Annoying, makes quoting harder.

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    Damn, needed three edits to get it right.
     
  8. Ch3vr0n

    Ch3vr0n Translator NL & Mod

    They are. Just include them in the quote lol. They are by default

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  9. David_B

    David_B Well-Known Member

    Are we all actually sure that BluRay menus in VLC require Java to be installed? Oracle's licensing for the JEW allows it to be shipped with programs the rely on it. I would think that if it were actually necessary, VideoLAN would have bundled it with the release.
     
  10. Ch3vr0n

    Ch3vr0n Translator NL & Mod

    They can't. VLC is fully open source. Java isn't

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  11. James

    James Redfox Development Team Staff Member

    Java menus, yes.
     
  12. David_B

    David_B Well-Known Member

    Oracle doesn't care as long as you do not modify the JRE that you ship with it. The only thing that would stop VLC from including the JRE is not wanting to. They could also use the open source alternative.

    Oh, alright then. Out of curiosity, is PowerDVD the same way? All of the machines I've ever used PowerDVD on have had Java installed.
     
  13. Ch3vr0n

    Ch3vr0n Translator NL & Mod

    Perhaps Oracle doesn't care, but the videolan non-profit organization does. Plus it would increase the download size 5-10x if not more? If you don't use VLC for Blu-ray or you use PowerDVD for example then you have no need for the bundled Java. It's better the way it is

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  14. David_B

    David_B Well-Known Member

    Indeed. I believe the rules have changed for JRE 9 though so you can ship only the parts that you need. Anyway, your point is well taken about the VLC non-profit.
     
  15. James

    James Redfox Development Team Staff Member

    No. PowerDVD doesn't need/use installed Java.
     
  16. SamuriHL

    SamuriHL Retired Moderator

    I grabbed the 64 bit version of everything but I didn't get a chance to play with it today. I'll look at it tomorrow.

    And yes, those are tapatalk things. Not sure if I can turn it off or not. I'll take a look.
     
  17. SamuriHL

    SamuriHL Retired Moderator

    PowerDVD is a licensed player and as such has a version of Java built in. But it's not oracle java it's licensed by the AACS LA.
     
  18. David_B

    David_B Well-Known Member

    Interesting.

    Anyway, has anyone run in to the issue I mentioned in the OP about "Edge of 17"?
     
  19. James

    James Redfox Development Team Staff Member

    Have you set the right region removal in AnyDVD, or set the correct player region in VLC?
     
  20. Pansfox

    Pansfox Active Member

    An aside, but does this method of disabling the Tapatalk sig work still?