Vista - Should "upgrade" or not?

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by ivanX, Aug 18, 2007.

  1. ivanX

    ivanX Translator (ru)

    Hello everybody,

    I recently managed to get my hands on a copy of Vista Business. Yes, it's all legal, being a software developer, I'm allowed treats like that :D

    I tell you what, I'm seriously tempted to install Vista over the top of my XP. However, I don't want to rush it, which brings me onto the dilemma: to be or not to be?

    My system spec is below and Vista Upgrade advisor tells me that "I'm allowed" to upgrade so no probs there. In the past, I thought I'd put Vista on when I upgrade my machine, but if it's ok on this one then why not?

    Spec:

    Code:
    Gigabyte 7S748-L Socket A
    AMD AthlonXP 2400+
    1 Gb PC2700 DDR (333MHz)
    PNY nVidia 6600
    Creative Audigy 2 ZS
    Western Digital 320Gb HDD (60Gb free)
    WinXP SP2
    
    If there are any more details to spec that you'd like me to add then say so.

    I don't want you to convince me to upgrade to Vista, just be productive in sensible in your suggestions.

    Thank you very much in advance :clap:
     
  2. zebadee

    zebadee Well-Known Member

    Hi :)
    I use Vista Ultimate 32 bit.
    Can't say I experience any problems myself.
    However if you've not already done it. Then maybe you should wait till SP1 is available.
    If you go ahead, then dual boot might be worthwhile for now too.
     
  3. ivanX

    ivanX Translator (ru)

    You say you use Vista Ultimate 32 bit. What made you jump on that bandwagon?
     
  4. Webslinger

    Webslinger Retired Moderator

    I just built a new semi-gaming system for my girlfriend. I've got her dual booting Vista 64 bit Ultimate edition on a raid 0 configuration, and Windows XP pro 32 bit edition on the third hard drive. The only reason I put Vista on her system was for directx 10 gaming (speaking of which, Game Jackal needs to be updated for Vista 64). Otherwise, I wouldn't have her bother with Vista (as I feel it's mostly DRM laden junk). Also, I'd recommend a minimum of 2 gigs memory for Vista (but 1 gig is possible).

    By the way, on the exact same system, Vista Ultimate 64 edition won't shutdown properly. I've disabled the modem. I've tried every possible ACPI setting in bios. Vista does attempt to shutdown, but I just get a blank screen. On the same system, Windows XP Pro 32 bit edition shuts down perfectly fine.
    I'm sure if I call Microsoft they'll tell me to contact the motherboard manufacturer and update the bios. Bios is up to date, and the motherboard does support Vista 64 . . . XP does shutdown properly. So . . .
     
    Last edited: Aug 19, 2007
  5. DetroitBaseball

    DetroitBaseball Well-Known Member

    As long as you aren't gaming on Vista, 1GB is plenty.
     
  6. ivanX

    ivanX Translator (ru)

    I've long been planning bumping up my memory to 2Gb. I do play a handful of games, but nothing really new. So will it be of significance to buy another stick of memory?
     
  7. Webslinger

    Webslinger Retired Moderator

    For new Directx 10 games, yes . . .
     
  8. DetroitBaseball

    DetroitBaseball Well-Known Member

    I doubt they are DX10 games if they aren't new.
     
  9. Webslinger

    Webslinger Retired Moderator

    Well, I would admit redundancy in my diction except that I've heard rumours of some developers possibly adding directx 10 (graphic) support to some existing games.
     
  10. DetroitBaseball

    DetroitBaseball Well-Known Member

    If XP is working fine for you right now and you are able to get work done, why upgrade? If it ain't broke don't fix it?
     
  11. ivanX

    ivanX Translator (ru)

    The "newest" couple of games I play are Call of Duty 2 and Need for Speed: Most Wanted

    XP is working fine. I can and I do get the work done. I ain't broke. I'm not trying to fix it. The most painful headache would probably come in having to upgrade to new Norton Internet Security, because Symantec are too kind not to offer a service pack to smooth out the compatibility problems. My NIS '04 didn't make the cut in Vista Upgrade Advisor :(
     
  12. zebadee

    zebadee Well-Known Member

    Hi :)
    Simply much of the s/w I used wasn't supported by 64 bit.
    I was one of the 1st folk to go over to Vista.
    I haven't bothered with dual boot either.
    If I had gone with 64 bit, I would've had to have gone down the dual boot road.
    With what I know now. I would've (should've) waited till now & gone with 64 bit.
    I intend on moving over to 64 bit before the end of the year.
    But I do feel Vista is the way to go. :D
     
  13. DetroitBaseball

    DetroitBaseball Well-Known Member

    I wasn't talking about you. It's the old saying, "if it aint broke, don't fix it."
     
  14. oldjoe

    oldjoe Well-Known Member

    No Norton?...............That sounds like a "good thing".:agree:
     
  15. ivanX

    ivanX Translator (ru)

    sorry, I mistyped there. I meant "It ain't broke"

    Let's not divert the thread in that way. It has kept me safe for the past 3 years, so I personally have no complaints. What I am complaining about is that they won't make 2004-5 versions of their software compatible with Vista. Therefore, I got my subscription money back and still got 11 months left :D
     
  16. DetroitBaseball

    DetroitBaseball Well-Known Member

    Don't get me started on Norton.....
     
  17. ivanX

    ivanX Translator (ru)

    Thanks for that, very informative. I'd still like to know though why you went to Vista and why Ultimate edition? Thanks a lot :)
     
  18. zebadee

    zebadee Well-Known Member

    Hi :)
    I went for Vista in the 1st place to make better use of my setup.
    Better integration of SATA HDs. Especially in raid format. The lure of DirectX10 (though that looks like it could be pure folly). Plus the future with HD/BD etc.
    Vista home is XP with a Vista look, Premium not much better. I don't think Business was out (but probably wouldn't have considered it anyway).
    Having XP Pro meant to me the logical move was to Ultimate,
     
  19. ivanX

    ivanX Translator (ru)

    I see. So, in your opinion, would it be better to upgrade from XP to Vista on an existing machine or build a new rig and then install it? Thanks again :clap:
     
  20. zebadee

    zebadee Well-Known Member

    Hi :)
    Because of Vista being new (+ it probably makes it easier for MS).
    It you buy OEM version, then it is easier to keep this for the new build. If possible.
    Otherwise it may prove difficult getting activation.
    There are reputedly ways around this. Although MS says it has ways of IDing these & will simply disable PC.
    I had this (although it was down to ZoneAlarm removing my activation). If/when this happens, the PC loses some part of the setup (s/w). So at first you may unaware of the process. It takes three days minium before the PC visibly tells you of any problems. At this point using system restore will not work.
    You have to get a code from MS, if your genuine. Then reactivation via telephone as the automated setup will not work either.