Van Helsing (2004) DVD feature broken upon decryption

Discussion in 'AnyDVD HD (DVD issues)' started by dbminter, May 2, 2018.

  1. dbminter

    dbminter Well-Known Member

    This is an older DVD and it's a somewhat odd issue.

    It's the DVD of Universal's Van Helsing (2004). It was protected by some kind of structural protection, so it was ripped with AnyDVD to Folder. It decrypts fine and plays for the most part, but there is one feature on the DVD that is "broken" upon decryption.

    There's an option to play the movie with an icon that will pop up from time to time and when Enter is pressed, load a side title before returning to the movie. This feature doesn't work on decrypted copies. The icons pop up but pressing Enter does nothing.

    The feature does work on the original disc, both on my PC with Media Player Classic Home Cinema and on my Playstation 3. Decrypted copy does not work for this feature in either case.

    As I said, it's weird. I don't think I've ever encountered a DVD where a feature didn't work after it was decrypted. Either a disc would fail to decrypt for whatever reason or would decrypt but wouldn't play at all or play improperly. The movie plays fine and all other features work on the decrypted copy. Just that one "branching" thing.

    I realize it's an older DVD and not really high priority as the movie itself does play. It just seems like a weird issue to me. That a disc would decrypt and play properly, but one feature wouldn't work.

    Is this something worth investigating further?

  2. James

    James Redfox Development Team Staff Member

    Please post an AnyDVD logfile.
  3. dbminter

    dbminter Well-Known Member

    I actually decrypted that DVD months ago. I had forgotten about this until today. I've already put it away and I don't know where it is right now. I'll go looking for it soon. Pretty soon, looks like I'll have to get a new PC and reinstall everything. So, I don't know when I'll get around to it. But, when I get a stable situation, I'll put up an AnyDVD logfile of the decrypt. Thanks!
  4. dbminter

    dbminter Well-Known Member

    Found it. Here's the log. I didn't use the latest beta to generate this log file, just the latest gold/final release.


    EDIT: I'm trying to decrypt it again since since the last time I did this, there's a repair defective DVD structure functionality in AnyDVD. And, running the decrypt again triggered a repairing defective DVD structure message. So, I'll see if this new decrypt fixes this problem.

    EDIT #2: Well, repairing the defective DVD structure did NOT decrypt the movie. The DVD is about 8 GB. The resulting decrypted DVD is 1.5 GB. The extras are apparently all there, but there are no movie contents. So, it was actually working better to decrypt this movie when it only broke 1 extra feature. AnyDVD currently won't decrypt the main movie now.

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    Last edited: May 3, 2018
  5. James

    James Redfox Development Team Staff Member

    I believe your disc and / or drive is dirty and / or defective.
  6. dbminter

    dbminter Well-Known Member

    I don't know. I have to doubt that. The disc decrypted fine a few months ago, save for the one feature that didn't work. The drive was just installed on January 13th. I cleaned the disc before I inserted it.

    However, there may be another explanation. My update to Windows 10 April 2018 Update has cause me nothing but problems. I've restored back to before it was installed. I'll try decrypting again and see if it still happens.

    EDIT: I have to wonder if it's AnyDVD's repairing defective DVD structure feature. The only other DVD I've encountered this on is Rumble In The Bronx. AnyDVD wouldn't decrypt it correctly. Had to use DVD Shrink to read it to a VIDEO_TS folder without AnyDVD loaded. I'll see if I can dig out my Rumble disc and see what I can see. I am pretty sure Van Helsing was done the first time back before the repair features were implemented.

    EDIT 2: It's not the Windows 10 April 2018 Update issues I was having. I restored back to the Fall Creators Update to troubleshoot other issues. AnyDVD still decrypts only the extras. None of the main movie.

    I have retained a long archive of install files. I'll try installing a really older Redfox license version of AnyDVD and see if I can replicate the results I got last year. Since the DVD came out over 10 years ago, an older version of AnyDVD won't be a problem as long as I can test it without the repairing defective DVD structure. If I have such an installer.
    Last edited: May 4, 2018
  7. dbminter

    dbminter Well-Known Member

    Following up on your idea that the disc might be bad, I decided to do one test before any other. I put it in my Playstation 3, started playing the main movie, since if there would be any problem it would most likely be in the largest title set because it has the largest file size on the disc. I scanned playback at 10x to see if the disc would actually play. About 41 minutes in, it stopped scanning, sat there momentarily, and then skipped to 48 minutes into the movie. This repeated at another point. So, the disc apparently has gone bad since last year when I last processed it. It's nearly 15 years old, so it's not beyond possibility that that could happen.

    What I don't understand is how it can be bad yet good enough that AnyDVD didn't choke on reading it. That it could read just enough to process the disc but not read all of it. Anyway, that's probably why it said it was repairing the defective DVD structure, which I don't remember it did before last year. It was a defective structure and AnyDVD skipped over the main title set because it couldn't read the entire contents, because they weren't totally there.

  8. mmdavis

    mmdavis Well-Known Member

    Looks like a lot of read errors.
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  9. James

    James Redfox Development Team Staff Member

    I told you. :sneaky:
    The option "Feature removal - copy protection based on unreadable sectors" considers "read errors" an evil plot (copy protection), and removes titles with errors. In your case, this happens to be the entire movie.