Unable to backup classic dr who

Discussion in 'CloneDVD' started by tonyt, Dec 15, 2007.

  1. tonyt

    tonyt Member

    Unable to backup classic dr who or simpsons movie

    I find when i backup my classic Dr Who dvd's as iso or vob to hard drive they stutter and display grey flashes (blank frames?) at the places where special effects should probably be inserted

    Have tried using clonedvd with both anydvd and dvddecryptor (iso ripped by this plays perfectly) but every combination of settings and/or type of copying results in this fault

    It seems clonedvd doesn't insert the special effects

    Am only having problems with classic dr who dvd's. All other dvd's i've backed up have been fine

    Was wondering if anyone has any suggestions please?
    Last edited: Dec 16, 2007
  2. mike20021969

    mike20021969 Well-Known Member

    what versions of anydvd and clonedvd2 are you using?
  3. tonyt

    tonyt Member

    CloneDVD is

    AnyDVD is
  4. tonyt

    tonyt Member

    Just did a backup of the simpsons movie and i'm getting exactly the same thing at one point in the movie. It's where they put a band across the bottom of the screen advertising a fox tv show as homer carries a hod of bricks and gets shot at by bart

    Was beginning to think it might be the dvd player in the PC but when i play the disc in the same dvd player it plays perfectly (so not the dvd either)

    Not sure what to do now!

    Any thoughts please?

  5. tonyt

    tonyt Member

    Have found a solution. Just tried dvdshrink instead (without any compression) and it's handled the sample problem discs fine (after using dvddecrypter to create an iso copy with all protection removed)

    Will have to test a few more, but if it's all ok then i'll have to re-backup all my dw dvd's using this then, what a pain
  6. James

    James Redfox Development Team Staff Member

    Sending an AnyDVD_Info file would have helped...
  7. tonyt

    tonyt Member

    Happy to send one if it helps. Though the problem isn't with anydvd, it's with clonedvd2. Does this have a logging mode?
  8. Webslinger

    Webslinger Retired Moderator

    Highly unlikely

    And yes, Clonedvd does have a log. But the Anydvd log would be more useful, I think:

    a)Click the red fox icon on your toolbar.
    b) Navigate to "Program Settings".
    c) Click "enable logging".
    d) Click "ok".
    e) Put the problematic original disc in your optical drive/reader.
    f) Go to your My Documents folder
    g) You will see a zip file called "Anydvd_Info_titleofmydisc.zip"
    h) When replying or posting in the Slysoft forums, look for the icon that looks like [​IMG]
    i) if you don't see that icon, click the "go advanced" button. You should see that icon now. Click the paperclip.
    j) a small pop-up screen should appear (if it doesn't please ensure your browser is enabled to allow pop-ups from the Slysoft forums)
    k) click the "Browse" button, and locate and select the .zip file you created.
    l) click "upload"
  9. tonyt

    tonyt Member

    Have attached an anydvd log. This was a backup of episode 4 of "destiny of the daleks" region 2 (problems are no different to backing up all the episodes at once)

    The reason i pointed my suspicions at clonedvd rather than anydvd is that i've tested both clonedvd & dvdsrhink doing the same backup using both anydvd with the original dvd and a mounted iso image of the full dvd created using dvddecrypter. clonedvd produced the same problems using both sources but dvdshrink worked with both (well dvdshrink is 99% ok, a couple of very slight stutters in this episode)


    Attached Files:

  10. tonyt

    tonyt Member

    I mean't to add that all my tests were run without any compression, in case that might be relevant

  11. Webslinger

    Webslinger Retired Moderator

    1. Update to Anydvd click http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=10591

    2. Then please reupload the .zip

    3. Also, rip with Anydvd ripper (right click red fox icon on toolbar-->select "rip video-dvd to harddisk")

    Does the rip play fine?

    4. Now rip video files to hard disk using Clonedvd (not iso).

    Does the rip play fine?
    Last edited: Dec 17, 2007
  12. tonyt

    tonyt Member

    1 & 2. File attached. I mounted this ISO of the episode and it has all the same issues

    3 & 4. same problems as before (the anydvd rip seemed the worst as at the problem points, although the blank frames were less obvious, the picture kept jumping back a fair few frames)

    I should say that although the above tests were carried out on 1 system, previous tests were also carried out on completely different hardware but had the exact same issues


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  13. Webslinger

    Webslinger Retired Moderator

    Thanks. I'd wait to see what James has to say.
  14. tonyt

    tonyt Member

    Ok, many thanks
  15. James

    James Redfox Development Team Staff Member

    Can you please try to disable removal of "copy protections based on bad sectors"?
    Does this help?
  16. James

    James Redfox Development Team Staff Member

    Forget this. I believe the "grey flashes" are caused by leaving out the second angle. Make sure to select all angles in CloneDVD, if you copy movie only.
  17. Webslinger

    Webslinger Retired Moderator

    He claims the rip from Anydvd ripper is the worst problem.
  18. tonyt

    tonyt Member

    Thanks will give it a try this evening, to see what happens and report back

    However, i assume this means that the resultant rip (as it would be multi angle) wouldnt actually merge the angles? This would mean my ultimate goal of streaming the vobs to my network dvd player would still fail (even if my pc player plays it fine) as I would be 1st streaming angle 1 then angle 2? or do i misunderstand how it works please? Thanks Tony
  19. plato

    plato Well-Known Member

  20. tonyt

    tonyt Member

    I did have that problem with the Simpsons movie to start with, but then realised i was backing up the wrong one. The problem i had above was with the correct version (non-commentary), and just occurs at one point in the movie