For the members of this forum that prefer as many tools in the toolbox as possible. Here's a link to a giveaway to a full version of a Blu-ray copy program with lifetime update. http://www.sothinkmedia.com/giveaway.htm All that's needed is a valid email address. They are giving away 10 licenses a day but only did two yesterday which means if you sign up for it you will probably get one too. I received a key yesterday 30 min after signing up that I will probably give to my brother to use. But I did have to check my junk folder. I found this over on the Myce forum and was posting for the members that may not visit other forums. PS For what it's worth I do own a LTL to cloneBD and that is my preferred option.