Speed throttling?

Discussion in 'AnyStream' started by ZARTT, Sep 26, 2020.

  1. ZARTT

    ZARTT Well-Known Member

    I decided to try downloading a crime/drama series from Netflix during my trial period.
    There are 59 episodes spread over 6 seasons.
    Season one downloaded OK with an average time of about 15 to 20 minutes per episode.
    Season two seemed to be the same, but truthfully I wasn't really paying too much attention to download time yet.
    Season three started to really slow down which caught my attention.
    Episode 5 of season three stalled out at 53%, and stuck there for about 2 hours.
    Now any item I choose gets to about 4% and dies.
    Is Netflix aware of what I am doing, and throttling me down?
     
  2. Ch3vr0n

    Ch3vr0n Translator NL

    There's a speed control setting in AnyStream itself which caps the maximum download speed you allow AnyStream to use. You can try to increase that. However this does NOT affect the speed netflix itself sends out the data. That's down to their CDN

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  3. ZARTT

    ZARTT Well-Known Member

    However this does NOT affect the speed netflix itself sends out the data.

    If that is the case then why does the program warn you that the provider could possibly throttle you if they detect what you are doing?
    In another post you commented that you had been running your testing at max speed, and seemed to suffer no ill effects.
    In my original post I was describing what happened when I ran at 1x speed.
    I reset download speed to maximum, and the choke appeared to have disappeared. Episodes then started to download in a 10 minute time frame.
    In the past 2 days though, the situation has deteriorated to a point where no matter what the speed setting, Netflix stalls out at around 12% It will sit there for hours.
    I have attached a logfile of a situation where the download has been stalled for 2 .5 hours.
    It seems to me that I have shown a red flag to Netflix, and they are going to shut me down.
    Art.
     

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  4. Ch3vr0n

    Ch3vr0n Translator NL

    It does that out of a precaution. I have said that about max speed indeed and I still do. Infact I just grabbed another movie just yesterday at full hd, 5.1 audio. Took a massive 3 minutes to download on my end. Just because netflix itself doesn't limit the speed, that doesn't mean AnyStream cannot have picked a CDN sever it thought was best, but unfortunately isn't the best speed wise.

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  5. Prospere

    Prospere RedFox Development Team

    @ZARTT This may be due to the CDN problem (we have no control over how Netflix manages them). The one that was the best when you started the download may well become the worst over time. You do not feel this in browser because Netflix player can switch between CDNs, the ability which AnyStream lacks at this time.

    We are, however, constantly working on improving AnyStream and this "feature" is on the list.
     
  6. ZARTT

    ZARTT Well-Known Member

    OK. Now you guys are confusing me.

    @Ch3vr0n states: "Just because netflix itself doesn't limit the speed, that doesn't mean AnyStream cannot have picked a CDN sever it thought was best, but unfortunately isn't the best speed wise."

    @Prospere states: "This may be due to the CDN problem (we have no control over how Netflix manages them). The one that was the best when you started the download may well become the worst over time. You do not feel this in browser because Netflix player can switch between CDNs, the ability which AnyStream lacks at this time."

    Which is it? Who has control over the choice of the Content Delivery Network. AnyStream, Netflix, or my ISP. (Network speed test screenshot provided).
    I have effectively come to a screeching halt. I mean stopped. No movement at all.
    @Ch3vr0n seems to have no difficulty with downloading with the highest speed setting, but yet I do.
    Do we as end users have any say at all which CDN is used?
    My hardware is fairly sophisticated, though not as much as Chevys.
    Is this maybe a Europe vs. North America thing?
    Is anyone else having this problem?
     
  7. Prospere

    Prospere RedFox Development Team

    @ZARTT Ok, I see. Let me clarify this.

    Netflix uses CDN servers (stands for Content Delivery Network) for content distribution. The same title is hosted on multiple servers and the service (Netflix) provides a ranked list of those to the client (Browser). AnyStream uses this list in order to select a better (a more available) CDN server. However, AnyStream, unlike Netflix player, cannot switch between CDN server at runtime (this functionality is planned, though). This may lead to a situation, when the server being selected begins to experience more load with time, which may have negative impact on the downloading experience of the end User.

    On the other hand, there may be a problem on AnyStream's side and we are checking for it.
     
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  8. ZARTT

    ZARTT Well-Known Member

    OK!
    Thank you for your response.
    I am positive that you guys are on the right track for the future with AnyStream.
    I think now that I have a rudimentary understanding of the CDN thing.
    My download schedule usually occurs in the early A.M. (2 to 6).
    I will experiment with a different time slot to see if that changes anything.
    I am still curious though. Have you had any other instances of my experiences since the introduction?
    Or am I an only case here?
    Art.