Safedisc 4.6

Discussion in 'CloneCD' started by coolio986, Sep 16, 2007.

  1. coolio986

    coolio986 Member

    Here I am stuck trying everything to get Need For Speed Most Wanted Black Edition working. (cd version)

    I have the latest version of clone cd.

    I am reading the cd with a pioneer dvr-111d with the "protected game cd" profile. Everytime I burn the cd I set the write speed to 4x and enhance weak sectors. I enable hide CDR Media but it always comes back with the dialog "Please insert the correct cd and try again"

    I have also tried it with a nec nd-3520aw and no luck.

    If I try and read the cd with a reader to disable atip after a long time of waiting it finally gives me the dialog "Please insert the correct cd and try again".

    anybody got an idea of how to make this work?
     
  2. DetroitBaseball

    DetroitBaseball Well-Known Member

    I would try GameJackal.
     
  3. coolio986

    coolio986 Member

    From what I understand gamejackal allows you to make an emulated backup. Is there any chance that I can make a 1:1 backup of my game and put it back to cd?
     
  4. DetroitBaseball

    DetroitBaseball Well-Known Member

    I have no idea at all. :confused: Can you make an emulated back-up with GameJackal and then then burn it to a CD?
     
  5. Webslinger

    Webslinger Retired Moderator

    If cycling "hide CDR Media" on and off doesn't work, then I doubt it.
     
  6. coolio986

    coolio986 Member

    I can make an emulation with alcohol 120 and then use sd4hide to make it work. But thats not really making a working backup. Thats just making an emulation of it.

    Is there any way to make a working cd backup of the game without having to modify the existing game or use a safedisc killer app?
     
  7. Webslinger

    Webslinger Retired Moderator

    Without an original Plextor Premium cd-rw drive, I doubt it (and even with one, I'm not sure).

    That said, part of the problem, may be that you have Alcohol's virtual drives running while using your Clonecd backup. All virtual drives should be disabled.
     
    Last edited: Sep 17, 2007
  8. coolio986

    coolio986 Member

    When the game is launched all virtual drives are removed. Is ccd able to copy safedisc 4.6?
     
  9. Webslinger

    Webslinger Retired Moderator

    Your capacity to be able to is based on your hardware. If Alcohol can't without emulation on your system, then it's highly unlikely that Clonecd will be able to on your system either. Slysoft's solution for emulation is to use Game Jackal (which does tend to use smaller profiles).
     
  10. coolio986

    coolio986 Member

    What hardware would it take to make a backup?
     
  11. Webslinger

    Webslinger Retired Moderator

    Possibly original Plextor Premium cd-rw drives, which are no longer made. Basically, I don't think anything is going to do it for you without emulation.
     
    Last edited: Sep 17, 2007
  12. coolio986

    coolio986 Member

    They are rare to find but they are out there. I can get one I might just give it a shot
     
  13. Webslinger

    Webslinger Retired Moderator

    Plextor did release another premium drive much later than the original. Those newer ones are reported not to work as well.
     
  14. coolio986

    coolio986 Member

    About what year was the better of the two released?
     
  15. BenGurion

    BenGurion Well-Known Member

    i've tested safedisc several times ... only thing about a real 1:1-backup i can say is:
    SafeDisc3 with CloneCD --> successfull
    SafeDisc4 with CloneCD --> not successfull (and no other 3rd-party-program can do it!)
    you only can make an hdd-emulation with SD4
     
  16. Webslinger

    Webslinger Retired Moderator

    2003, irrc
     
  17. coolio986

    coolio986 Member

    I've read forums that say people have been able to copy safedisc 4.6. From my understanding the problem isn't reading the cd. Its burning it back out. Is that true? or am I on a wild goose chase?

    If the problem is burning it back out is it because of EFM? and enhancement of weak sectors
     
  18. Webslinger

    Webslinger Retired Moderator

    Without emulation (or the proper hardware), I think you're on a wild goose chase. I often read people claiming a lot of things, and then it turns out they have Alcohol 120% or Daemon Tools on their systems anyway (and chances are their backups won't work with those programs uninstalled; basically that means they needed emulation of some sort).
     
  19. coolio986

    coolio986 Member

    We are entitled to a backup copy of our originals right? If thats the case why aren't we allowed to make one. I understand piracy and the laws but when a person wants to make a legitimate backup in this case its impossible? I know that I can emulate it but what if my computer dies and the hard drive is junk. I loose my backup again. Its almost a crime to let this type of thing get away with.

    I know that you keep mentioning that without the proper hardware it can't be done but it almost sounds like even with the proper hardware it cant be done either.

    This whole backup copy problem with safedisc sounds like another way to take away our rights to make a backup.

    I suppose that I will have to subdue and get gamejackal until something is done about the problem.
     
  20. Webslinger

    Webslinger Retired Moderator

    If you're in a country that abides by the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (the United States of America, for example), then no--not if you have to circumvent the digital copy protection measures to produce that backup. In the United States, it's illegal to make backups of anything that has some form of digital copy protection on it. Fair Use Rights, in the U.S., do not supersede the DMCA.

    So, in the United States, merely attempting to circumvent anything that has a digital copy protection measure on the disc in order to make a backup is illegal (and you have the DMCA to thank), regardless of whether you own the disc. Does this violate Fair Use Rights? Yes. Do Fair Use Rights take precedence over the DMCA? No. At least, not legally. Will anyone be able to successfully prosecute you for backing up a dvd you purchased (for non-commercial, private, individial use)? Unlikely, but I'm not advising anyone . . .

    Click http://forum.slysoft.com/showpost.php?p=51861&postcount=1

    I doubt anything will be. Most games require emulation of some sort now. And safedisc, as a copyprotection, is a lot less insidious than some others that are out there.