Removing "Operation Prohibited" in BluRay Disks

Discussion in 'AnyDVD HD (Blu-ray issues)' started by preiner, Feb 5, 2008.

  1. preiner

    preiner Member

    Sorry if this is obvious to everyone except me...

    The built-in ripper in AnyDVD HD works perfect, but it didnt seem to remove the operation prohibited bits (in fact, I cant even find where to set the option).

    Is this possible?

    Also, is firstplay supposed to start the movie, or is it usually used by the studios to FORCE you to watch 1/2 hr of commercials?

    On all my rips, first play seems disabled.
     
  2. James

    James Redfox Development Team Staff Member

    AnyDVD can do all this magic with HD DVDs and standard DVDs, but currently not with Blu-ray.
     
  3. SamuriHL

    SamuriHL Retired Moderator

    That's not 100% accurate. On some of my ISO rips AnyDVD seems to have wiped out some of the prohibitions somehow. For instance, on an ISO of Ratatouille I can hit the menu button on my PowerDVD remote and skip the 10 previews and get straight to the menu. I can not, however, do that on the disc. So I'm not sure what the difference is but, you can try the ISO ripping thing and see if that removes the prohibitions.
     
  4. James

    James Redfox Development Team Staff Member

    Although I would love to take the credit for this, I don't think it is AnyDVD causing this. Could be a bug in PowerDVD when playing from ISOs (which PowerDVD sees as DVDs, not BD discs).
     
  5. SamuriHL

    SamuriHL Retired Moderator

    That could be, as well. Maybe a possible route for exploitation. :)
     
  6. hxall

    hxall Active Member

    PowerDVD when playing ISOs sees DVDs ...

    Interesting, not to contradict, but I have noticed that when loading BD ISO's, I see the Blu-ray icon displayed on the PowerDVD time counter area, the same for HD-DVD's and (SD) DVD's, it would seem that PowerDVD can recognize the ISO disc format as it would with the original discs???
     
  7. andy o

    andy o Well-Known Member

    James, I've wondered about this too, and in a post before you seemed to imply (I don't wanna say downright said, cause I can't find the post right now) that it's gonna be impossible for blu-ray. Is it only currently impossible, or do you think it's gonna be too hard to even try, considering gains vs. effort? Just curious.
     
    Last edited: Feb 9, 2008
  8. SamuriHL

    SamuriHL Retired Moderator

    You're referring to what James said about magic file replacement(tm) which is different than what we're talking about here. I'm not sure how the prohibitions in Blu-ray are done, but, if what James is saying about PowerDVD having a bug in that it "sees" a mounted Blu-ray image as a DVD, then there exists the possibility of exploitation of this. That also means that prohibitions are perhaps a flag that's being set somewhere. At the moment, I don't think the mechanism of how it works is fully understood. Certainly not by me anyway. :D I think for now they're probably hard at work on the BD+ stuff, but, hopefully once that's done maybe they'll have time to investigate this prohibition nonsense and maybe come up with a work around for it.
     
    Last edited: Feb 5, 2008
  9. andy o

    andy o Well-Known Member

    Here's James' post. He pretty much says that it can't be possible with blu-ray, which would be a bummer. That's why I was asking what he meant, or if his views have changed.
     
  10. James

    James Redfox Development Team Staff Member

    Never say never.... it is certainly possible for "simple" BD discs, but with Java discs it will be very difficult (close to "impossible") to find a "generic" method to disable UOPs.
     
  11. SamuriHL

    SamuriHL Retired Moderator

    Which, unfortunately, more and more of them are starting to include java these days. That will definitely be another thorn in our side considering that Disney has taken to adding 10+ freaking previews to every new disc now. Some of them have been fairly good and only included 1-3 previews. I consider that decent. It would be better if I could just hit the menu button on my remote and call it good.
     
  12. andy o

    andy o Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the clarification. I've been kind of hating java, both HDi and BDJ. If I'm not mistaken, that's what prevents all HD-DVDs and some BDs from starting the movie where you left it, and make you eat again the stupid trailers and warning screens when you pop-in the disc to resume watching a movie, isn't it?

    And also, I got a kind of related question. Why is it that some (all?) BD's let you just right-click and change languages/subs in the PowerDVD context menu, but not HD-DVD's. I don't know if it's Java-related, since I think Life of Brian has Java and it does allow me to do it.
     
  13. Rathbone80

    Rathbone80 Well-Known Member

    You can do that in Arcsoft TMT and Nero too I think with HD DVDs. So it has to be a PowerDVD restriction.