Question concerning BD

Discussion in 'AnyDVD HD (Blu-ray issues)' started by Aeneas72, Dec 13, 2020.

  1. Aeneas72

    Aeneas72 Well-Known Member

    Ripping of this BD fails repeatedly - any ideas? Is it just a faulty disc?

    Summary for drive F: (AnyDVD HD 8.5.0.2, BDPHash.bin 20-03-11)
    ASUS BW-16D1HT 3.01
    Drive (Hardware) Region: 2
    Current profile: BD-ROM
    Media is a Blu-ray disc.
    Total size: 21924576 sectors (42821 MBytes)
    Video Blu-ray label: DER UNTERGANG
    Media is AACS protected!
    AACS MKB version 14
    Drive supports bus encryption!
    Removed AACS copy protection!
    Blu-ray disc is region free!
    Removed annoying trailers!
    Removed annoying video sequences!
    Removed UOPs!
    Bad sector protection not found.
    WARNING: Read errors on disc!
     

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  2. Ch3vr0n

    Ch3vr0n Translator NL & Mod

  3. Aeneas72

    Aeneas72 Well-Known Member

    I have tried cleaning the disc in many ways - no success yet...
     
  4. Balor

    Balor Well-Known Member

    Hi @Aeneas72
    Tip:
    AnyDVD Settings - Drives - Speed control - activate here "slow & quiet"!
    Then it also works mayby with the reading of the disc!
    The disc should be cleaned very well before and create a Full-ISO.
    ;-)
     
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  5. Ch3vr0n

    Ch3vr0n Translator NL & Mod

    Yet again you make that assumption. There is no guarantee that'll work. When AnyDVD claims read errors, they usually are.
     
  6. Balor

    Balor Well-Known Member

    Hi @Ch3vr0n
    Nobody disputes that. :bowdown:
    Of course, the disc is badly made / pressed.
    But it's the result that is important.
    With the setting "fast" AnyDVD shows read errors (= no ISO) and with the setting "slow" AnyDVD shows no read errors (= an ISO). :dance:
    It's just a hint to try it.
    :)
     
  7. Ch3vr0n

    Ch3vr0n Translator NL & Mod

    That in essense just "hides" the error messages, it does NOT fix them and they'll most likely still be present in the ISO.
     
  8. Balor

    Balor Well-Known Member

    Maybe, but maybe not.
    Anyway, during further processing or playback you don't notice any reading errors anymore.
    But "real" disc errors should be detected at any speed and not only at "Fast".
    This question should be clarified by the developers.
     
  9. Ch3vr0n

    Ch3vr0n Translator NL & Mod

    That depends on your definition of "further processing or playback", if you only process the main title and the problem area is in submenu's or extra's you will indeed not encounter them. If for example like me you only do full disc backups, they WILL cause problems.
     
  10. Balor

    Balor Well-Known Member

    I also only create full ISO disk backups.
    Correct, real errors would cause problems again.
    But then read errors never occur again.
    Sorry, sounds funny, but it is.
    I can only recommend everyone to try the slow reading speed after cleaning the disc.
     
  11. Ch3vr0n

    Ch3vr0n Translator NL & Mod

    Nope, read errors created into the ISO will create problems for tools such as CloneBD which can load those iso's. It'll specifically warn you about corrupted data.
     
  12. Balor

    Balor Well-Known Member

    I agree with you.

    That is not the topic here.
    I will explain it to you again.
    With speed "Slow" creates AnyDVD a correct ISO.
    Later, with Clone BD, no more read errors are indicated.
    The original disc has no corrupted sectors.
    However, the original disc has sectors that cannot be read correctly with the "Fast" speed.
    This is not the case with all discs, but unfortunately with some dics.
    This is unfortunately state of the art with AnyDVD.
     
  13. Aeneas72

    Aeneas72 Well-Known Member

    Unfortunately, slowing down reading speed makes no difference...
     
  14. Balor

    Balor Well-Known Member

    Yes, I've had a bad disc like that too.
    There is still the possibility to try it with makeMKV or the monkey (also slow).
    If it does not work at all, then only the disc can be replaced.
     
  15. Ch3vr0n

    Ch3vr0n Translator NL & Mod

    Exactly as i expected. Proving "slow" mode can't fix read problems. You have a most likely a defective disc if the drive reads other discs fine. replace it
     
  16. SamuriHL

    SamuriHL Moderator

    This isn't always true. I've had many cases where slowing down the read speed allowed a clean read without errors. One of the major differences between "I can play it in my player" is the fact that they are playing them at a slower speed. Those Game of Thrones UHD's (I know, wrong section but those are notoriously more difficult to read given the tighter data packing required) I had a lot of success with by limiting my read speed to 2x. At full speed they would error. So blanket statements like "slowing down reading can't fix read problems" is not necessarily true. I'm not making a blanket statement that it will ALWAYS work, either. Sometimes discs are just bad. But it's often worth trying.
     
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  17. Ch3vr0n

    Ch3vr0n Translator NL & Mod

    well if that's the case, neither is making blanket statements that "slowing down will work" like Balor keeps doing ;)
     
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  18. SamuriHL

    SamuriHL Moderator

    Which is what I said. Blanket statements either way is not helpful. :)
     
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  19. Balor

    Balor Well-Known Member

    "Blanket statements" never, sorry @Ch3vr0n but read the thread properly from beginning to end! (see #4 etc.)
    It was only ever meant as a tip/hint.
    Please, sorry if I don't always use the right words, but EN is not my native language.
    I have never written/meant anything other than @SamuriHL.
     
  20. Ch3vr0n

    Ch3vr0n Translator NL & Mod

    I have

    That's a blanket statement saying it WILL work. That's wrong, it MIGHT (maybe) work but there's no guarantee it will. Which is what i said from the start.