Problem burning to DVD-R

Discussion in 'CD/DVD/BD Drives' started by Free DVD Coasters, Apr 23, 2007.

  1. I've been using a Liteon dvd-rom and LG GSA 4160B for a while and no problem. Now my LG wont burn to DVD-R. It will burn DVD-RW and DVD RAM (haven't tried DVD+R yet). Blank DVD-R disc properties come up as file system RAW but no available space. The drives will read DVD-R.
    When I attempt to burn a DVD-R the writer hangs and I have to turn off pc.
    Have uninstalled all burning software and re-installed individual programs to minimise compatability problems. Have tried Nero AnyDVD and CloneDVD2,
    Have uninstalled the drives and let XP re-install and still the same.
    So now I have purchased an ASUS DRW-1612BL, updated firmware.
    The problem remains.
    I'll also mention I have installed InCd on this machine and then removed it, whether this may be a culprit I am unsure.
    Can someone give me some help on this?
    I am currently using TDK DVD-R 1-8x
    Thought I might have a bad batch of DVD's (but half of them have worked and now they just wont)
    Bought some new TDK DVD-r 16x, but the problem is still there.
     
    Last edited: Apr 23, 2007
  2. oldjoe

    oldjoe Well-Known Member

    Be certain the Asus is connected correctly and then try a different cable to the Asus.
     
  3. shannon90210

    shannon90210 Well-Known Member

    I have had the same result - with DVD -R Media Using CloneDVD2

    Using the 1Click5 // PRO Burn engine
    - I must have it Set to "Try SAO First"
    - or I have the same result

    It has something to do - with the Burner
    - It usually more effects LG ( based ) Drives

    My solution is Simply to Use DVD +Rs only
    - when using CloneDVD2 to burn
    ( I prefer +Rs anyway )

    In the time I've spent on the LGSI forum
    - We've seen this quite a lot
    The "Try SAO First" setting usually resolves the 'freeze-up' Issue
    - when burning -Rs with 1Click5 // PRO

    We are not sure - exactly what causes this ;
    It definitely depends on the Burner .
    The Set-Up ?
    If it also depends on an influence - from other software ?
    - like if the Sonic Burn Engine - is also installed ?
    - We're just not sure
    There is definitely some conflict - somewhere

    I don't really have a solution for you
    I never resolved the Issue for Myself
    I just wanted to share my experience
    - before you go ripping your Computer apart

    I Just use +Rs when Burning with CloneDVD2/ CloneCD

    For your -Rs
    You could try Burning the Back-Up Folder with IMGBurn/Nero
    - See if you have the same result
    ( with IMGBurn/Nero - You may be able to Select SAO over DAO ( ? )


    Are you able to Book-Type your DVD+Rs to DVD-ROM ?

    re: http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?p=25489#post25489

    ;)
     
  4. Webslinger

    Webslinger Retired Moderator

    Clonedvd2 works fine with a 4163b here (except for the known jitter issues at 16x, but that has nothing to do with Clonedvd2).

    What LG models are you aware of that are affected?
     
    Last edited: Apr 23, 2007
  5. Have attached new cable for the ASUS. Everything works fine, just doesn't like to burn DVD-r.
    Luckily I bought a new stack of DVD-r's in case it was a just a dud batch the first time, you can never have too many drink coasters!!!
     
  6. Webslinger

    Webslinger Retired Moderator

    Do steps 3 and 4 from here please. Please note that step 4 actually requires you to post information.

    There are some pretty terrible TDKs being sold in general stores like Costco (not officially "b grade", but essentially the same thing). Try Maxell Plus, Maxell Broadcast Quality, Verbatim, or Taiyo Yuden (premium)
     
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  7. shannon90210

    shannon90210 Well-Known Member

    My [F] HP DVD Writer 640b E223 (Ide)(LG)
    will Completely Lock-Up
    You have to Close CloneDVD2 - through the Task Manager
    - to even get the Tray to open
    The Discs I've burned - with this result - were Burned and Finalized
    - and They played Fine :confused:

    I can't remember if I even tried with my
    [E] MAD DOG MD-16X3DVD9-8X 1.F3 (Ide)
    It's been awhile since I've even burned a -R


    Now with the VSO engine
    - Almost All LGs- Freeze without the "Try SAO First" Option
    - ( except the newest H42 - I think )
    .... but - it occasionally effects other Brand Burners - as well

    I wish I had a clue - as to why
    ;)
     
  8. Webslinger

    Webslinger Retired Moderator

    Have you tried disabling the .wav? visit http://forum.slysoft.com/showpost.php?p=21632&postcount=5



    You've probably already done this, but do you mind if I take a look at your filters, please? (step 4 from http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=1559 )
     
  9. Webslinger

    Webslinger Retired Moderator

    Your Asus is set to "master" on the back of the drive, and it's not slaved to anything, right?
     
  10. shannon90210

    shannon90210 Well-Known Member

    I wish I still had a -R to test .... All I have are some old -RWs lying around
    ... and Tons of +R TYs
    .wav works fine on +Rs ... I'm no where near maxed on resources
    ... but would try - If I had a -R

    I have - a few times - Removed All Filters - and Reinstall as Needed
    - Still same result


    ----------------------------------------------------
    Filter Driver Load Order http://www.bustrace.com
    ----------------------------------------------------

    Upper Device Filter: redbook
    Device Object: HP DVD Writer 640b
    Lower Class Filter: AFS2K
    Lower Class Filter: ElbyDelay
    Lower Class Filter: ElbyCDFL
    Lower Class Filter: PxHelp20
    Lower Class Filter: AnyDVD
    Lower Device Filter: imapi

    Driver Name: redbook.sys
    File Location: c:\windows\system32\drivers
    File Description: Redbook Audio Filter Driver
    File Version: 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) [5.1.2600.2180]
    Product Name: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
    Product Version: 5.1.2600.2180 [5.1.2600.2180]
    Company Name: Microsoft Corporation

    Driver Name: afs2k.sys
    File Location: c:\windows\system32\drivers
    File Description: Audio File System
    File Version: 3.1.20.1064 [3.1.20.0]
    Product Name: AFS
    Product Version: 3.1.20.7(1064) [3.1.20.0]
    Company Name: Oak Technology Inc.

    Driver Name: elbydelay.sys
    File Location: c:\windows\system32\drivers
    File Description: Elby Delay Lower Filter Driver
    File Version: 5, 1, 0, 1 [5.1.0.1]
    Product Name: CDRTools
    Product Version: 5, 1, 0, 1 [5.1.0.1]
    Company Name: Elaborate Bytes AG

    Driver Name: elbycdfl.sys
    File Location: c:\windows\system32\drivers
    File Description: ElbyCDIO Filter Driver
    File Version: 5, 2, 1, 3 [5.2.1.3]
    Product Name: CloneCD
    Product Version: 5, 2, 1, 3 [5.2.1.3]
    Company Name: SlySoft, Inc.

    Driver Name: pxhelp20.sys
    File Location: c:\windows\system32\drivers
    File Description: Px Engine Device Driver for Windows 2000/XP
    File Version: 3.00.11B [3.0.11.1]
    Product Name: PxHelp20
    Product Version: [2.0.0.0]
    Company Name: Sonic Solutions

    Driver Name: anydvd.sys
    File Location: c:\windows\system32\drivers
    File Description: AnyDVD Filter Driver
    File Version: 6.1.3.6 [6.1.3.6]
    Product Name: AnyDVD
    Product Version: 6.1.3.6 [6.1.3.6]
    Company Name: SlySoft, Inc.

    Driver Name: imapi.sys
    File Location: c:\windows\system32\drivers
    File Description: IMAPI Kernel Driver
    File Version: 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) [5.1.2600.2180]
    Product Name: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
    Product Version: 5.1.2600.2180 [5.1.2600.2180]
    Company Name: Microsoft Corporation





    ----------------------------------------------------
    Filter Driver Load Order http://www.bustrace.com
    ----------------------------------------------------

    Upper Device Filter: redbook
    Device Object: MAD DOG MD-16X3DVD9-8X
    Lower Class Filter: AFS2K
    Lower Class Filter: ElbyDelay
    Lower Class Filter: ElbyCDFL
    Lower Class Filter: PxHelp20
    Lower Class Filter: AnyDVD
    Lower Device Filter: imapi

    Driver Name: redbook.sys
    File Location: c:\windows\system32\drivers
    File Description: Redbook Audio Filter Driver
    File Version: 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) [5.1.2600.2180]
    Product Name: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
    Product Version: 5.1.2600.2180 [5.1.2600.2180]
    Company Name: Microsoft Corporation

    Driver Name: afs2k.sys
    File Location: c:\windows\system32\drivers
    File Description: Audio File System
    File Version: 3.1.20.1064 [3.1.20.0]
    Product Name: AFS
    Product Version: 3.1.20.7(1064) [3.1.20.0]
    Company Name: Oak Technology Inc.

    Driver Name: elbydelay.sys
    File Location: c:\windows\system32\drivers
    File Description: Elby Delay Lower Filter Driver
    File Version: 5, 1, 0, 1 [5.1.0.1]
    Product Name: CDRTools
    Product Version: 5, 1, 0, 1 [5.1.0.1]
    Company Name: Elaborate Bytes AG

    Driver Name: elbycdfl.sys
    File Location: c:\windows\system32\drivers
    File Description: ElbyCDIO Filter Driver
    File Version: 5, 2, 1, 3 [5.2.1.3]
    Product Name: CloneCD
    Product Version: 5, 2, 1, 3 [5.2.1.3]
    Company Name: SlySoft, Inc.

    Driver Name: pxhelp20.sys
    File Location: c:\windows\system32\drivers
    File Description: Px Engine Device Driver for Windows 2000/XP
    File Version: 3.00.11B [3.0.11.1]
    Product Name: PxHelp20
    Product Version: [2.0.0.0]
    Company Name: Sonic Solutions

    Driver Name: anydvd.sys
    File Location: c:\windows\system32\drivers
    File Description: AnyDVD Filter Driver
    File Version: 6.1.3.6 [6.1.3.6]
    Product Name: AnyDVD
    Product Version: 6.1.3.6 [6.1.3.6]
    Company Name: SlySoft, Inc.

    Driver Name: imapi.sys
    File Location: c:\windows\system32\drivers
    File Description: IMAPI Kernel Driver
    File Version: 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) [5.1.2600.2180]
    Product Name: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
    Product Version: 5.1.2600.2180 [5.1.2600.2180]
    Company Name: Microsoft Corporation
     
    Last edited: Apr 23, 2007
  11. Webslinger

    Webslinger Retired Moderator

    shannon90210,

    Oddly, I have been seeing problems with those who happen to have Pxhelp20, but I fail to see how that could cause any issues. Redbook and imapi are required, obviously.

    Given that in your case the burn seems to be locking up at the end with Clonedvd, I would take a look at disabling the .wav that plays at the end of the burn (that has caused lockups on some systems), but that doesn't necessarily explain why Clonedvd2 won't lockup when using +Rs on your system. Regardless, the sound playing is not the OP's issue.

    You've tried standard controllers, right?
     
    Last edited: Apr 23, 2007
  12. upper and lower filters are both REG_MULTI_SZ
     
  13. shannon90210

    shannon90210 Well-Known Member

    Not sure what - you're referring to
    - It's all HP Stock Drivers - and Updated


    I didn't mean to hi-jack the thread :eek:
    I wish I had a DVD -R to test
    I might pick up a few - next time I'm out
    Now I'm Curious again

    .... but for me .... I really never pursued the Issue
    - as I really prefer Book-Typed +Rs better - anyway

    ;)
     
  14. Webslinger

    Webslinger Retired Moderator

    No, use one of the programs listed please. You're not giving us the right info.
     
    Last edited: Apr 23, 2007
  15. Webslinger

    Webslinger Retired Moderator

  16. Webslinger

    Webslinger Retired Moderator

    Yeah, sorry . . .

    I see nothing wrong with your filters either. Pretty normal . . .
     
  17. ok sorry for delay
    upperfilters= GEARAspiWDM
    lowerfilters=
    ElbyDelay​
    ElbyCDFL​
    AnyDVD​
    Pfc​
    PxHelp20​
    AFS2K​

    I have set the jumper to master and disconnected other dvd burner

    Just in case you need more!!!

    Filter Check Tool v3.4

    An Upper Filter found is: GEARAspiWDM
    Filterdriver properties are:


    A Lower Filter found is: ElbyDelay
    Filterdriver properties are:
    Name: ElbyDelay
    Caption: ElbyDelay
    Description: ElbyDelay
    AcceptPause: False
    AcceptStop: True
    DesktopInteract: False
    DisplayName: ElbyDelay
    ErrorControl: Normal
    ExitCode: 0
    PathName: C:\WINDOWS\system32\Drivers\ElbyDelay.sys
    Version Info: 5.0.0.1
    ServiceSpecificExitCode: 0
    ServiceType: Kernel Driver
    Started: True
    StartMode: Manual
    StartName:
    State: Running
    Status: OK
    TagId: 0


    A Lower Filter found is: ElbyCDFL
    Filterdriver properties are:
    Name: ElbyCDFL
    Caption: ElbyCDFL
    Description: ElbyCDFL
    AcceptPause: False
    AcceptStop: True
    DesktopInteract: False
    DisplayName: ElbyCDFL
    ErrorControl: Normal
    ExitCode: 0
    PathName: C:\WINDOWS\system32\Drivers\ElbyCDFL.sys
    Version Info: 4.3.3.1
    ServiceSpecificExitCode: 0
    ServiceType: Kernel Driver
    Started: True
    StartMode: Manual
    StartName:
    State: Running
    Status: OK
    TagId: 0


    A Lower Filter found is: AnyDVD
    Filterdriver properties are:
    Name: AnyDVD
    Caption: AnyDVD
    Description: AnyDVD
    AcceptPause: False
    AcceptStop: True
    DesktopInteract: False
    DisplayName: AnyDVD
    ErrorControl: Normal
    ExitCode: 0
    PathName: C:\WINDOWS\system32\Drivers\AnyDVD.sys
    Version Info: 4.0.4.1
    ServiceSpecificExitCode: 0
    ServiceType: Kernel Driver
    Started: True
    StartMode: Manual
    StartName:
    State: Running
    Status: OK
    TagId: 0


    A Lower Filter found is: Pfc
    Filterdriver properties are:
    Name: pfc
    Caption: Padus ASPI Shell
    Description: Padus ASPI Shell
    AcceptPause: False
    AcceptStop: True
    DesktopInteract: False
    DisplayName: Padus ASPI Shell
    ErrorControl: Normal
    ExitCode: 0
    PathName: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\pfc.sys
    Version Info: 2.5.0.204
    ServiceSpecificExitCode: 0
    ServiceType: Kernel Driver
    Started: True
    StartMode: Manual
    StartName:
    State: Running
    Status: OK
    TagId: 0


    A Lower Filter found is: PxHelp20
    Filterdriver properties are:
    Name: PxHelp20
    Caption: PxHelp20
    Description: PxHelp20
    AcceptPause: False
    AcceptStop: True
    DesktopInteract: False
    DisplayName: PxHelp20
    ErrorControl: Normal
    ExitCode: 0
    PathName: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\PxHelp20.sys
    Version Info: 2.2.62.0
    ServiceSpecificExitCode: 0
    ServiceType: Kernel Driver
    Started: True
    StartMode: Boot
    StartName:
    State: Running
    Status: OK
    TagId: 7


    A Lower Filter found is: AFS2K
    Filterdriver properties are:
    Name: AFS2K
    Caption: AFS2k
    Description: AFS2k
    AcceptPause: False
    AcceptStop: True
    DesktopInteract: False
    DisplayName: AFS2k
    ErrorControl: Normal
    ExitCode: 0
    PathName: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\AFS2K.sys
    Version Info: 3.1.21.0
    ServiceSpecificExitCode: 0
    ServiceType: Kernel Driver
    Started: True
    StartMode: System
    StartName:
    State: Running
    Status: OK
    TagId: 1
     
    Last edited: Apr 23, 2007
  18. Webslinger

    Webslinger Retired Moderator

    Part of the Gear burning engine. Comes with iTunes and Drive Image 7.0.


    PFC - Padus ASPI Shell filter driver. Comes with Nero 6.x/7.x.x if you choose to install it, comes with WinDVD Creator, it comes with DiscJuggler and it comes with NVIDIA Purevideo decoder.

    Part of Sonic Burning engine, it's made by prassi/veritas and licensed to Sonic. Comes with Winamp, 1click DivxToDVD and (older versoins of) Digion Audio.

    AFS2K - CD-Rom Driver by OAK Software and HP Memories Disc.

    You don't need to disconnect your other burner.

    O.k, your filters look fine to me (or at least, I know of no known issues with them).

    Are you using an 80 pin cable? Ensure it's attached appropriately (not connected as slave).


    Also, try this: http://club.cdfreaks.com/showpost.php?p=1455402&postcount=3
     
    Last edited: Apr 23, 2007
  19. yep the cable is set in master position - ie the end one

    unsure of 80 pin? but is standard IDE
     
  20. should I check anything in CMOS?

    when I review the driver for dvd player it says it is the latest version for windows
    version 5.1.2535 from 2001
    Does this sound correct? shouldn't it refer to a newer one
     
    Last edited: Apr 23, 2007