Problem backing up discs.

Discussion in 'CloneDVD' started by smudgebucket, Feb 27, 2008.

  1. smudgebucket

    smudgebucket New Member

    I am using the current versions of Anydvd and Clonedvd. Recently, when backing up discs, the first copy will not play in any of my dvd players. The burn goes through perfectly with no errors but the disc is unplayable. If I then put in another blank disc and push write, the second disc goes through the same burn process and will play perfectly.
    I'm not using the greatest blank discs in the world but it has happened with two different types of blank media. If the discs were defective why would the second disc always be ok and the first one unplayable?
    Another [Related?] question. I am getting small circles on my discs where it appears that the movie did not burn properly. Most of the time they appear about one-half of an inch from the outside of the disc. Lately I have seen a couple at the middle of the disc. I thought that it might be a layer break issue but why they are appearing in the middle of the back up disc suddenly is a mystery. When playing the discs, they will sometimes freeze up at the point where the circle appears. I accept that this might be because of cheap media but does anyone know for sure? I doubt that I am the first person who this has happened to.
    Thanks for any help.
  2. Webslinger

    Webslinger Retired Moderator

    Bad quality blank media can vary in results from disc to disc, even within the same spindle. With good blank media you can play "find the bad blank" game. With inferior quality blank media you get to play "find the blank that works" game. And even when inferior blank media does work, you can play the "will my backups still play after 6 months (or even after two years)" game.

    Use good quality blank media (Taiyo Yuden Premium not Valueline, Verbatim, Maxell Plus, Maxell Broadcast Quality). Avoid Ritek, Memorex, Regular Maxell blank media that you can find in most stores that are not made in Japan, Fuji, TDK from Costco, and Princo. Also, on average, it's wise to avoid blank media that's made in China or Hong Kong.

    If you're using double layer blank media, use Verbatim +R DL (preferably made in Singapore) or MAM-A 8x +R DL.

    Bad/incomplete burns

    1. Update your burner's firmware (if available)

    2. Use good quality media (Memorex, Ritek, Princo, Fuji, TDK from Costco, and Maxell that are not made in Japan are not good quality media). Are you using inferior blank media? If you're not using Taiyo Yuden (not valueline), Verbatim, or Maxell Broadcast Quality, then chances are the answer is yes.
    If you use poor quality blank media, then you should expect problems.


    For +R DL blank media, use Verbatim made in Singapore or MAM-A 8x +R DL.

    3. Try lowering your burn speed (not below 4x; if you have a 16x burner and 16x rated media try writing to it at 12x instead of 16x; an 8x burn speed on 16x rated media wouldn't be a bad idea either)

    4. If you're using +R, +RW, or +R DL media, change the booktype to "dvd-rom" (step 3)

    5. Avoid sticker labels (they tend to cause problems)

    6. Try setting a custom size of 4300 in Clonedvd (but if you're using good media, you shouldn't have to) if you're using regular single layer dvd-5 (4.7GB) discs.

    7. Download Nero cd-dvd speed. It's a free program. Select the tab labeled "scandisc". Insert the problematic backup disc, select the appropriate drive letter, and click "start". If Nero cd-dvd speed reports read errors, your backup is bad (which is the most likely case), your optical drive may be slowly dying, or your optical drive simply doesn't like the disc (or your choice of blank media)--even if the disc looks fine.

    Bad burn quality is notorious around the end of discs (see step 6)
    and also at layer breaks when using low quality DL media (use Verbatim +R DL media made in Singapore or MAM-A 8x +R DL, and change the booktype to "dvd-rom")

    Also, check the preview screen in Clonedvd to ensure you're backing up the proper title.

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