no blu-ray on i945g

Discussion in 'AnyDVD HD (Blu-ray issues)' started by katzm, Aug 20, 2007.

  1. katzm

    katzm Member

    hi,

    i have an aopen mp945-vxr barebone (http://minipc.aopen.com/Global/spec_945X.htm)
    and installed the trial of anydvd hd.
    but when I want to watch a blu-ray film, powerdvd always gives me the
    error:
    graphic/card / driver not supported.

    is this because its the trial version pf anydvd hd?

    I tested it with xp pro and vista ultimate 32bit, the same error.
    and of course I installed the newest drivers for the integrated graphics.

    Any help?

    greetings

    katz
     
  2. ivanX

    ivanX Translator (ru)

    Hi,

    I'm sorry if I didn't look well but I don't see in the spec you linked to any mentioning of a BluRay drive. You need one to play BluRay discs. Can you verify this please? :)
     
  3. katzm

    katzm Member

    yes, sorry, forgot to mention,

    I have a pioneer bdc-202 drive in an external case connected via usb.
     
  4. Charlie

    Charlie Well-Known Member

    Even though anydvd hd takes away the factor of needing a hdcp compliant video card, a very high end video card is still needed and I never heard (myself that is) on a intregrated video card capable as of yet so I am willing to bet this is the issue at hand. I did look at your pc specs and noticed that it doesn't even mention what type of video card used can you tell us what kind it is?
     
  5. ivanX

    ivanX Translator (ru)

    Have a look in the settings of AnyDVD HD.

    It's definitely because of the trial, because even the trial is a fully-working version.

    Could be a PowerDVD problem, because I heard some of their stuff is a headache to use :D
     
  6. wdgoldstein

    wdgoldstein Beta Tester

    Your problem is VIDEO! The intel graphics chipset does not meet the PowerDVD minimums. The only manufacturers currently supported are High end ATI and some NVIDEA cards. Check the powerDVD site for a specific list. You will not be able to watch Blu-Ray or HD-DVD till you upgrade your video.
     
  7. katzm

    katzm Member

    sh.t! so I need another software, is there any other software available to play
    blu-ray disks?

    btw, what does anydvd hd do? i thought, it enables graphic cards to play hdcp
    protected content even if they are not hdcp capable?
    so why does powerdvd realize that the graphic card is not hdcp-capable?
     
  8. ivanX

    ivanX Translator (ru)

    You don't need other software, you need new hardware!

    Look on the product page of AnyDVD HD and you'll read what it does. You don't have a graphics card so AnyDVD HD would be pointless in this case :)
     
  9. Charlie

    Charlie Well-Known Member

    PowerDVD and WinDVD after you get a better video card one that isn't integrated.

    Here is the link of the minimum viseo cards that will allow playback of Bluray or HD.

    http://www.cyberlink.com/multi/supp...p?FID=2577&nProdId=31&ProdVerId=175&nCateId=5

    Other hardware to consider.

    http://www.cyberlink.com/multi/supp...windex2=0&nProdId=31&nProdVerId=175&nCateId=5
     
  10. katzm

    katzm Member

    arrgh! there it fades away, the dream of my stylish blu-ray htpc... :(

    so I guess, this
    http://minipc.aopen.com/Global/news/20070718.htm
    thing makes also no sense because it has no nvidia/ati graphics.

    shame on aopen not to mention it anywhere.

    thanks for the quick and many responses!
     
    Last edited: Aug 20, 2007
  11. Charlie

    Charlie Well-Known Member

    Sorry not without one of the video cards I linked you on.
     
  12. katzm

    katzm Member

    @ ivanX
    "Look on the product page of AnyDVD HD and you'll read what it does. You don't have a graphics card so AnyDVD HD would be pointless in this case"

    this is not correct: on the product page there is written:

    # watch movies over digital display connection, without HDCP compliant graphics card and HDCP compliant display.
    # playback of discs on the PC with PowerDVD Ultra, which otherwise do not run

    and so as i do have a graphic card (no matter if its integrated) and can expect that
    I can watch blu-ray by using anydvd-hd.
    nowhere on this page there is mentioned that it works only with nvidia/Ati graphics.
    according to the system requiremenst on this site, I should be abvle to play blu-ray! (core2 duo t7400, 2gb ram)
     
    Last edited: Aug 21, 2007
  13. wdgoldstein

    wdgoldstein Beta Tester

    You just don't get it!


    AnyDVD/HD does what it is suppossed to. It gets rid of the HDCP restrictions. The reason that one of the ATI or Nvidea cards are required is that to display in HD you need sufficient co-processing by the graphic processing unit and the ability of the video card to handle up to 1080P output. This is NOT an HDCP issue. The player software makes for these requirements. With a lesser video card, even if one could play the movie, you would get a lousey picture with lots of dropped frames. The data rate for HD and Blu-ray is just to high for video that is built onto your motherboard.

    You can watch blu-ray or HD on any system that is supported by the player software whether it is HDCP or not. This is the restriction. If the player wont work why do you blame AnyDVD/HD?

    Most, if not all of us here, had to upgrade our Video as well as purchase a HD-DVD and/or Blu-ray drive to watch these movies. And, even if you can't watch movies at this time with AnyDVD/HD you can still rip to HD any movies you like for viewing when you upgrade your video.

    Next thing you'll be asking is why you can't display Blu-ray movies in 1080P on a standard def. tube type TV with a maximum input of 480i using anyDVD/HD and your HTPC.
     
  14. katzm

    katzm Member

    yes, I did get it already, my graphic card is too weak for decoding, with my last post I only wanted to make clear that I'm not a
    dummy that doesnt't read the manual!!!!
    I'M just saying, if I look on the system requirements for anydvd hd on this page,
    I must expect that i can play blu-ray disks.

    quote: "Playback your discs on your PC with PowerDVD Ultra, which otherwise do not run (titles released by Studio Canal, The Weinstein Company, Kinowelt, Optimum Releasing)"

    can you tell me where on this side I can find the information that you just gave me? All I see is: if you cannot watch blu-ray, get anydvd hd and you can!

    I do not blame slysoft or anydvd for anything, i just dont want to be treated as a idiot or noob who just wants to nag !
    btw: I did purchase it yesterday for my other destop pc.
     
  15. karlheinz

    karlheinz Member

    patch

    hi,
    theres a patch for powerdvd that enables playback of hd-dvd/blu-ray with intel integrated graphics 945/965. please try and post if its working!

    the link: http://www.cyberlink.com/multi/download/dl_patch_397_112_ENU.html

    quote: * Enables support for secure BD/HD DVD playback on Intel 965/946 graphics chip with Windows Vista Aero-glass on.
     
  16. me-eyes

    me-eyes Member

    According to this site it is possible to play Hi-Def movies with integrated graphics: http://techreport.com/ja.zz?id=196555. This is how i see it - the CPU does the grunt work, but as hi-def video decoding takes an awful lot of CPU cycles (particularly those utilising the h.264 codec) then any assisted decoding by the graphics card is a bonus and you are far less likely to have any dropped frames. The only graphics cards to offer hardware decoding of hi-def movies are nVidia (7600GT & up) or ATI (x1600 & up). What spec is your CPU?

    Maybe the current version of PowerDVD will not run without a graphics card capable of hardware decoding. Makes you wonder if someone who bought a Quad-core machine but skimped on the graphics won't be able to play hi-def when obviously they could do it in spades if it was CPU-only decoding.
     
    Last edited: Aug 22, 2007
  17. katzm

    katzm Member

    thanks, I downloaded the powerdvd patch, but still the same error.
    disappointing...
    my cpu is a core2duo merom processor, t7200 with 2ghz speed, it should be strong
    enough to decode hd content
     
  18. Charlie

    Charlie Well-Known Member

    It is but the video card can't handle the HD content as there is no power behind it, not hdcp, but no power to run hd content.
     
  19. sarah99

    sarah99 Well-Known Member

    You can play HD-DVD/Blu-Ray with an Intel 945 graphics chip and AnyDVD HD, if your processor has plenty of power, using Media Player Classic.
    You can do anything with enough processor power!

    Core2 Duo 1.8GHz will do the trick.

    http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=892527

    No nice menus, just the movie.

    This will work just fine (the Cyberlink patch doesn't work with an Intel 945).
     
    Last edited: Aug 25, 2007
  20. katzm

    katzm Member

    thanxxx!!!!!!!!!!! I will try it. thank you VERY much!