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NF VS AMZN

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Example; The Office Season 5 Episode 1 comes out under 1GB. However, that same episode on AMZN is 3.9GB? Why does the NF such low bitrate? I noticed this on other series & movies.
 
I just noticed on AMZN it's a double episode so let me try single vs single
 
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Definitely much smaller


NF

General
Complete name                            : The Office (U.S.) S05E03 Business Ethics.mp4
Format                                   : MPEG-4
Format profile                           : Base Media
Codec ID                                 : isom (isom/iso2/avc1/mp41/iso6/piff)
File size                                : 961 MiB
Duration                                 : 21 min 39 s
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 6 205 kb/s
Movie name                               : Business Ethics
Encoded date                             : UTC 2020-12-07 18:00:24
Tagged date                              : UTC 2020-12-07 18:00:24
Comment                                  : Holly's business ethics seminar gets out of control when Michael lets everyone speak freely about their unethical behavior at work.
Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : High@L4
Format settings                          : CABAC / 4 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
Format settings, Reference frames        : 4 frames
Codec ID                                 : avc1
Codec ID/Info                            : Advanced Video Coding
Duration                                 : 21 min 38 s
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 5 561 kb/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 20.0 Mb/s
Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.112
Stream size                              : 861 MiB (90%)
Writing library                          : x264 core 148
Encoding settings                        : cabac=1 / ref=4 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x111 / me=umh / subme=10 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=120 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=8 / lookahead_threads=2 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / stitchable=1 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=16 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=240 / keyint_min=121 / scenecut=0 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=240 / rc=crf / mbtree=1 / crf=20.0 / qcomp=0.50 / qpmin=6 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / vbv_maxrate=20000 / vbv_bufsize=25000 / crf_max=0.0 / nal_hrd=vbr / filler=0 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:0.80
Encoded date                             : UTC 2020-12-07 18:00:24
Tagged date                              : UTC 2020-12-07 18:00:24
Codec configuration box                  : avcC
Audio
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : E-AC-3
Format/Info                              : Enhanced AC-3
Commercial name                          : Dolby Digital Plus
Codec ID                                 : ec-3
Duration                                 : 21 min 39 s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 640 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 6 channels
Channel layout                           : L R C LFE Ls Rs
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 99.1 MiB (10%)
Language                                 : English
Service kind                             : Complete Main
Encoded date                             : UTC 2020-12-07 18:00:24
Tagged date                              : UTC 2020-12-07 18:00:24

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AMZN

General
Complete name                            : The Office S05E02 Business Ethics.mp4
Format                                   : MPEG-4
Format profile                           : Base Media
Codec ID                                 : isom (isom/iso2/avc1/mp41/iso6/piff)
File size                                : 1.98 GiB
Duration                                 : 21 min 37 s
Overall bit rate                         : 13.1 Mb/s
Movie name                               : Business Ethics
Encoded date                             : UTC 2020-12-07 17:54:48
Tagged date                              : UTC 2020-12-07 17:54:48
Comment                                  : Let's get ethical -- Following Ryan's (B.J. Novak) recent scandal at corporate, Holly (guest star Amy Ryan) must hold a business ethics seminar.
Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : High@L4
Format settings                          : CABAC / 4 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
Format settings, Reference frames        : 4 frames
Codec ID                                 : avc1
Codec ID/Info                            : Advanced Video Coding
Duration                                 : 21 min 37 s
Bit rate                                 : 12.5 Mb/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 26.4 Mb/s
Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.251
Stream size                              : 1.88 GiB (95%)
Encoded date                             : UTC 2020-12-07 17:54:48
Tagged date                              : UTC 2020-12-07 17:54:48
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.709
Transfer characteristics                 : BT.709
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.709
Codec configuration box                  : avcC
Audio
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : E-AC-3
Format/Info                              : Enhanced AC-3
Commercial name                          : Dolby Digital Plus
Codec ID                                 : ec-3
Duration                                 : 21 min 37 s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 640 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 6 channels
Channel layout                           : L R C LFE Ls Rs
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 99.0 MiB (5%)
Language                                 : English
Service kind                             : Complete Main
Encoded date                             : UTC 2020-12-07 17:54:48
Tagged date                              : UTC 2020-12-07 17:54:48
 
Different platforms. If you download the episodes from iTunes it will also be a different size.

However I do note that Amazon at least seems to go by your settings and presumably bandwidth test on what is listed in the MPD. Depending on days and times I have noticed higher quality streams listed that were not in previous sessions. NF maybe the same? I should note none of this is recent w/ AS just over the years and at different times I noticed that.
 
Different platforms. If you download the episodes from iTunes it will also be a different size.

However I do note that Amazon at least seems to go by your settings and presumably bandwidth test on what is listed in the MPD. Depending on days and times I have noticed higher quality streams listed that were not in previous sessions. NF maybe the same? I should note none of this is recent w/ AS just over the years and at different times I noticed that.


That's weird lol
 
It's a pain as not always easy to get the best quality. As you have to check both NF and Amazon, then go with higher bitrate. Amazon gets even more complicated w/ h265 and VBR and CBR streams (AS doesn't seem to access those). Amazon has 3 different streams that I am aware of for all files, h264 CBR, h264 VBR and h265 VBR. What's the best quality? Will the best quality be available in your MPD if maybe your connection is a little slow etc. It can be a headache.
 
netflix started out somewhere between 10-15Mb/s then they made an announcement that they had tested a new encoding method that even their staff couldn't tell the difference between when given the potential to win a prize (obvious bullshit) and that was just the first of what has been a few decreases in bitrate and what has become a visibly shitty picture. amazon unlike netflix actually has a server farm of some sort so unlike netflix they don't really have to worry about the storage space. as far as quality, there's very little chance amazon will ever be inferior. they do however suffer from being inferior to different regions when the product didn't originate in the US but you can most likely chalk that up to the distributor who sent the files likely trying to save bandwidth/ time. I've gotten shows off itunes in different regions with superior quality to what amazon had on hand.

as far as " Amazon has 3 different streams that I am aware of for all files, h264 CBR, h264 VBR and h265 VBR" there is damn near a 0% chance this is true. anystream is pulling both CBR files and VBR files where appropriate in relation to the file's age. earliest amzns were 10Mb/s CBRs followed by 15Mb/s max VBRs and finally this third or foruth window appears to be where the scene CBRs started coming in. as far as x265 chances are it's only ever with 4k content and possibly 1080p HDR if they even ever have such a thing. with the bitrates these VBRs have though there's no reason to worry about the CBRs. I've seen Blu-rays that never improved on itunes quality due to encoding methods and source. I would bet on these VBRs being as good as or the best possible quality available the vast majority of the time.
 
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