New in PowerDVD 17

Discussion in 'Third Party Products' started by hadar, Feb 16, 2017.

  1. Jeff R 1

    Jeff R 1 Well-Known Member

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  2. MisterXDTV

    MisterXDTV Well-Known Member

    If it was just PlayReady 3.0, NVIDIA Pascal cards would already be compatible with Netflix 4K and my Skylake 6700 would work just fine. Instead even on Netflix you are forced to use iGPU that comes with Kaby Lake....

    How do you explain this?

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  3. Jeff R 1

    Jeff R 1 Well-Known Member

    It looks like you can remove your 1060 card from the MoBo (had a look over at Prostar and it appears it simply plugs in like a memory stick).
    Once removed it should default to the iGPU.
    It would be interesting to see if it would work.

    I know they can be removed on my Alienware machine.
     
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  4. ddjmagic

    ddjmagic Well-Known Member

    Most reports have mentioned Nvidia/AMD drivers are not yet compatible with PlayReady 3.0.
    From what I've seen Netflix have never mentioned SGX as a requirement only Cyberlink have (which makes sense since they have to follow AACS LA requirements)
    I'm not saying SGX isn't required for Netflix, I don't know, as you say it most likely is.
    Unless PlayReady/SGX are indeed the same thing/tied together, which Jeff R 1 link points towards, which would make sense (PlayReady may require/use SGX)

    We need someone with compliant hardware to disable SGX and find out for certain in Netflix, might be difficult since @Gizzmo is the only person in this thread to have it and even then it doesn't seem to work :LOL:

    At least if Nvidia are showing off slides specifically about Netflix 4k, it's only a matter of time until support is added, which should mean UHD BD support too.
     
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  5. Jeff R 1

    Jeff R 1 Well-Known Member

    I don't know if anyone else did, but I watched that video in my link.
    The guy touched on PlayReady 3.0, but he didn't actually say anything about SGX.
    He did mention other DMR protections, but he was very unclear.
    He is the worst speaker ever...
     
  6. Gizzmo

    Gizzmo Well-Known Member

    So tryed Netflix yesterday again and honestely I don't know for shure if 4K was working
    or if it was only a really good 1080p stream. I tryed Netflix with Edge Browser, searched
    for "4K", some documents and movies were found. The problem is, with my Samsung
    UHD Discplayer the 4K titles are shown with a 4K label within the database of Netflix.
    This is not the case with Edge Browser or the win10 App. There is no info at startup
    or to open showing the resolution if the played movie.

    So I can't say if it was really 4K, even it looked really good with much detail.

    Maybe I can check the used datarate on the networkport to see if it takes more than
    with a 1080p stream... Anybody knows if Netflix offers a infopanel with resolution?

    The Win10 App didn't work, trying to play the "4K" streams always showed me an info
    that Netflix have a problem playing it at the moment.

    Maybe I try to phone Netflix today and ask how to check if 4K is working...

    BTW, which drives are able to read UHD discs? I can't find the thread anymore. Would
    like to check this part too.
     
  7. Adbear

    Adbear Well-Known Member

    If you remove the GTX card then you get nothing as the motherboard isn't set up to switch to the iGPU. The electronics are all set up to feed from the GTX, so no GTX then nothing gets output to the screen or the external sockets .The reason they are removable is so you can replace it or upgrade it from the 1060 to a 1070 or 1080. I'm a system builder and have been dealing with Clevo laptops for years so I know they don't work that way. If the electronics was there then they'd give it as an option in the BIOS like they do on the lower end models that take mobile CPU's.
     
  8. Jeff R 1

    Jeff R 1 Well-Known Member

    Well, that sucks, I never tried doing that on my Alienware, but on my HTPC, if I remove my NVIDIA card it defaults back to the iGPU, so that was my thinking.
    On my HTPC if I use the HDMI port on the MoBo while the video card is hooked up, I just get a black screen.
     
  9. Jeff R 1

    Jeff R 1 Well-Known Member

    This is the one I got from Amazon.

    https://www.amazon.ca/LG-WH16NS40-Internal-Blu-ray-Rewriter/dp/B00E7B08MS/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1456893295&sr=1-1&keywords=LG WH16NS40&tag=vglnk-ca-c18-20

    http://www.avsforum.com/forum/26-ho...c-bdxl-drive-test-request-4.html#post41616169 (post 109)

    The SVC code NS50 (seems to be the key) and manufactured after October 2015 on mine.
     
  10. Adbear

    Adbear Well-Known Member

    But none of the sockets on the laptop are connected to the motherboard in that way. All the external sockets including the TB 3 are routed direct to the GTX
     
  11. ddjmagic

    ddjmagic Well-Known Member

    Ctrl+Alt+Shift + D will bring up stats and show the resolution (in Edge at least)

    As @Jeff R 1 mentioned new revisions of the LG BH16NS40/WH16NS40 and also the LG BH16NS55 can all read the content on UHD discs (maybe others too)
    However we don't know it they will actually play the discs, early signs from RedFox were they only support AACS 1.0 and not the newer 2.0 required for UHD BD.

    Pioneer recently released BDR-S11J-BK & BDR-S11J-X in Japan, these specifically say they will work with UHD BD, but no North American/European model has been announced yet.
     
  12. Tourist

    Tourist Well-Known Member

    From what i've read those LGs can physically see the content and make a protected ISO with AnyDVD ripper.
    Question is: does PDVD 17 play back AACS 2 protected ISOs ?
     
  13. ddjmagic

    ddjmagic Well-Known Member

    No, a protected ISO can't be played without the protection being removed first.
    If it could then AACS would be pretty useless and we wouldn't need AnyDVD :)
     
  14. Ch3vr0n

    Ch3vr0n Translator NL & Mod

    Probably not, it's very likely UHD discs use some bd-rom mark like on normal discs which is located on the inner plastic ring and cannot be ripped. Encryption - bd-rom: playback failure.

    Sent from my Nexus 6P with Tapatalk.
     
  15. MisterXDTV

    MisterXDTV Well-Known Member

    I find amusing the fact that the BD Drive might be the only hardware component that works on my system. I was worried about it and now I find out I have to change every other component to play these discs
     
  16. Ch3vr0n

    Ch3vr0n Translator NL & Mod

    Well Asus responded in regards to the GPU part of my contact request 'we currently don't have any product that supports this, so in this case the answer is the same.

    So if they're right, that means that at least for the Asus strix series SGX support is going to have to come from Nvidia through a driver implementation. For my MB I'll have a dig through the board BIOS.

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  17. David_B

    David_B Well-Known Member

    Let the reversing begin! I wish @James and whomever may be assisting him the best of luck!
     
  18. gereral1

    gereral1 Well-Known Member

    stupid phone. If you see 4k titles in the Netflix Windows 10 app then your PC is playing 4k
     
  19. David_B

    David_B Well-Known Member

    Nice to know that a screen the size of your hand supports 4K. Very useful indeed.
     
  20. gereral1

    gereral1 Well-Known Member

    ? My screen is 65 inch Sony xbr850c uhd4k with hdr