New in PowerDVD 17

Discussion in 'Third Party Products' started by hadar, Feb 16, 2017.

  1. Ch3vr0n

    Ch3vr0n Translator NL & Mod

    well lets hope AMD/nVidia will be able to implement SGX too at the driver level. Afterall there is an SDK for it
     
  2. MisterXDTV

    MisterXDTV Well-Known Member

    Isn't SGX Intel-exclusive technology? And still, that wouldn't cover CPU and MoBo anyway
     
  3. BrianG61UK

    BrianG61UK Well-Known Member

    Yes I'm a little puzzled as to why a motherboard (or even a GPU as mentioned in one comment) would need or even be able to support SGX.
    It's requirement for UHD disks in PDVD 17 is presumably as a means of preventing reverse engineering, and/or of making it harder to suck the decrypted video out into some other piece of video capture type software while it's playing.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_Guard_Extensions
     
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  4. MisterXDTV

    MisterXDTV Well-Known Member

    Here's the official Intel tool to check SGX capability: My 6700 (Skylake) is not capable...
     

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  5. Gizzmo

    Gizzmo Well-Known Member

    Hi,
    thanks for the tool, did activate SGX on my Z270 Mobo and the tool shows me it is in use.
    Did a short test with Netflix, but didn't get it in 4K. Is there something to setup or an
    certain update for Win10 so 4K works with Netflix? do I need to set the resolution to UHD?
     
  6. MisterXDTV

    MisterXDTV Well-Known Member

    Did you connect the HDMI cable to the Intel GPU?? You have to use the Netflix App from Windows Store
     
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  7. ddjmagic

    ddjmagic Well-Known Member

    I don't think the app supports 4k, you have to use Edge Browser.

    You need Windows 10 Anniversary update (1607)

    On a side note is SGX required for Netflix 4k? I thought it was Microsoft's "Playready" or whatever they call it.
    I only remember SGX mentioned by Cyberlink for UHD BD (to protect keys getting leaked like previously)
     
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  8. Gizzmo

    Gizzmo Well-Known Member

    Tryed the win10 App, so will try Microsoft Edge browser next...

    Will Playready get installed automatically when trying to use Netflix 4K
    or do I have to install it first?

    Honestely don't know if SGX is required for Netflix 4K. It seemed like it is
    to me, after reading this thread and the report from blu-ray.com forum.
     
  9. Gizzmo

    Gizzmo Well-Known Member

    MisterXDTV, yes HDMI Mobo to AV-Receiver to Projector, all able to handle
    HDMI 2.0 with HDCP 2.2. I have no extra GPU in my HTPC.
     
  10. ddjmagic

    ddjmagic Well-Known Member

    I was wrong, according to Netflix the Windows 10 app does support 4k.

    As far as I know, Playready should automatically work. I don't have a compliant PC, so I haven't tried myself.
     
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  11. Adbear

    Adbear Well-Known Member

    Well my laptop supports SGX according to that utility, but as I said I have no access to the onboard GPU
     
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  12. ddjmagic

    ddjmagic Well-Known Member

    I imagine no one expected to ever need the iGPU when you have a 1060 in there :LOL:
    Why laptop do you have by the way? Sounds great.
     
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  13. Adbear

    Adbear Well-Known Member

    It's a Clevo P775DM3-G, they go up to a GTX 1080 or there's a higher model that goes up to dual GTX 1080's
     
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  14. MisterXDTV

    MisterXDTV Well-Known Member

    Netflix didn't mention SGX specifically but the Kaby Lake + iGPU requirement speaks for itself....

    UHD BD and Netflix seem to have exactly the same requirements. It's copy protected 4K content just the same
     
  15. gereral1

    gereral1 Well-Known Member

    Just upgrade to window 10. Upgraded to hdmi 2.0b rx 470 card that supports hdr. I'll download Netflix app when I get home and see if the cpu will restrict the 4. My TV and graphic card are 2.2 hdcp compliance. My cpu no. If it works that would be great. If not my TV already has 4k Netflix that works fine.
     
  16. MisterXDTV

    MisterXDTV Well-Known Member

    It won't work: Kaby Lake CPU/MoBo + iGPU is the only way
     
  17. gereral1

    gereral1 Well-Known Member

    That's OK. ... if I build another pc I'll buy kaby lake. I was talking to a network administrator about pcie riser cards to use old pic hardware. My 8 channel maudio 1010lt can be put in new motherboards. For me this is important to have lpcm 8 channel sound. I'm excited to look into m2 technology with pcie ssd drives.
     
  18. ddjmagic

    ddjmagic Well-Known Member

    SGX and PlayReady are separate DRM, it just happens that Kaby Lake support both types, so it's possible Netflix does not need SGX (just like UHD BD won't use PlayReady)
    Netflix and BD's have always had completely different DRM systems.

    AACS LA have required SGX for safe key decryption (most likely since PowerDVD leaked keys previously), obviously this isn't relevant to Netflix as they don't use this type of copy protection.
     
  19. gereral1

    gereral1 Well-Known Member

    I promised on Friday I'll post update on this to tell you all for sure if Netflix will work in 4k with new hdcp 2.2 GPUs like the one I just bought.
     
  20. ddjmagic

    ddjmagic Well-Known Member

    It doesn't. I've tried myself with a HDCP 2.2 card. A compliant Intel iGPU is required (which I don't have)
    I'm just questioning the SGX element for Netflix, since they are using PlayReady. Not that it really matters, since Kaby Lake works with both anyway.