Maybe you should not upgrade to Vista

Discussion in 'Third Party Products' started by James, Feb 10, 2007.

  1. Charlie

    Charlie Well-Known Member

    Now I'm lost again? So vista is needed?
     
  2. Webslinger

    Webslinger Retired Moderator

    I believe the simple answer to your question is no.
     
  3. Webslinger

    Webslinger Retired Moderator

    Powerdvd Ultra, for example, can run under Windows XP service pack 2.
    http://www.cyberlink.com/multi/products/require_112_ENU.html

    Windvd for HD content is not being offered on the the North American website yet
    (and can only playback in a lower resolution at the moment, I think).

    Vista is not required.
     
    Last edited: Feb 11, 2007
  4. Charlie

    Charlie Well-Known Member

    Got it thanks, yes I'm a fan of Power DVD so that will be what I get.
     
  5. whatever_gong82

    whatever_gong82 Well-Known Member


    Does it install without you losing your files and stuff??

    :confused:

    I might buy Vista Home Premium Edition within the next month or so, but I'm concerned about the DRM mess and whether I'd lose any stuff that I've saved on Windows XP Pro.
     
  6. James

    James Redfox Development Team Staff Member

    AnyDVD HD will improve your "movie watching" experience, as
    1.) PowerDVD won't crash as often, as it has some trouble with AACS. :D
    2.) PowerDVD doesn't play *a lot* of HD DVDs without AnyDVD HD *at all*. Yes, this is true. No joke.
    3.) You can skip the unwanted intros
    4.) You can remaster the HD DVD to your liking using scripting
    5.) Maybe it even reduces the CPU load, as PowerDVD doesn't need to constantly check if the HDCP path is still intact.
     
  7. James

    James Redfox Development Team Staff Member

    If you are concerned about the DRM mess, why do you want to buy it? :confused:
     
  8. James

    James Redfox Development Team Staff Member

    WinDVD HD is complete crap (at least in its current "state").
    PowerDVD Ultra does have its share of problems, but most of them are addressed by AnyDVD HD. :D
     
    Last edited: Feb 11, 2007
  9. Webslinger

    Webslinger Retired Moderator

    Yeah, Anydvd HD is a no-brainer purchase. :clap: I would buy it.

    Sorry, I didn't mean to suggest Anydvd HD was useless. I just meant it's not going to magically make the source material any better (better sound quality/picture). I just didn't want people to be posting, "Help, AnyDVD HD isn't making my picture look any better than normal!"
     
  10. James

    James Redfox Development Team Staff Member

    You as a gamer should hate this new sound stack, as it does all environmental effects now in software (with the CPU). The DSP on your expensive soundcard will be twiddling thumbs.
    For movie playback (multichannel decoding) it doesn't matter, this has to be done in software anyway.
    The worst thing: The new sound stack doesn't work with ReClock (an essential piece of software for serious movie watchers).
    As long as there is no ReClock for Vista, I wouldn't even consider it for DVD or HD DVD playback.
     
  11. James

    James Redfox Development Team Staff Member

    Yes, but if there are millions of other guys thinking as you...?
     
  12. Webslinger

    Webslinger Retired Moderator

    Yes. I'd be looking for any number of ways to disable it. But most well designed games should give you the option of using hardware instead of software audio decoding. If Microsoft forced gamers to take a big cpu hit each time they played games just for positional audio (when they already have soundblaster x-fi cards), there would be a huge uproar from gaming developers.

    Yes, there's little doubt in my mind that staying with XP would be best for HTPC users.
     
    Last edited: Feb 12, 2007
  13. James

    James Redfox Development Team Staff Member

    Simple answer: No. On the contrary, to get rid of the 3:2 pulldown judder and have smooth 48/72 Hz playback (or to reverse PAL Speedup for the Australians and Europeans) you need ReClock.
    ReClock won't run on Vista. This is a serious showstopper if you are serious about movie watching.
     
  14. Webslinger

    Webslinger Retired Moderator

    Then I'm sure the world would be a much better place to live in!
    :D

    (joking)
     
  15. James

    James Redfox Development Team Staff Member

    Another interesting article by security & cryptography specialist Bruce Schneier http://www.schneier.com/
    "Why Vista's DRM Is Bad For You":
    http://www.forbes.com/security/2007/02/10/microsoft-vista-drm-tech-security-cz_bs_0212vista.html

    Have fun reading it. And don't buy Vista. :D

    EDIT:
    Here is Schneier's (and my) advice from his article:
    In the meantime, the only advice I can offer you is to not upgrade to Vista. It will be hard. Microsoft's bundling deals with computer manufacturers mean that it will be increasingly hard not to get the new operating system with new computers. And Microsoft has some pretty deep pockets and can wait us all out if it wants to. Yes, some people will shift to Macintosh and some fewer number to Linux, but most of us are stuck on Windows. Still, if enough customers say no to Vista, the company might actually listen.
     
    Last edited: Feb 12, 2007
  16. James

    James Redfox Development Team Staff Member

    No, but "Slysoft products have no problems" is not reason enough to install a DRM timebomb as operating system.

    My motto: Say "no" to Vista.
     
  17. Cloned dvd

    Cloned dvd Guest

    I paid for the program....

    and then I uninstalled it...

    simply put... It is not for me.

    too "tellatubbie-ish"
     
  18. Clams

    Clams Well-Known Member

    I agree 1000%!!!!

    SAY NO TO VISTA!!! VISTA WAS NOT MADE FOR THE LITTLE USER.... IT WAS MADE FOR THE CORPORATIONS.

    -W
     
  19. jdlewallen

    jdlewallen New Member

    Simple Alternative...

    Dump all the microsoft crap and install Linux...software is free, updates are free, your system isn't the target of every virus ever created, AND you free up half your hard drive!!!
     
  20. DetroitBaseball

    DetroitBaseball Well-Known Member

    I agree. I myself have used many distributions of Linux, but Slysoft products don't work on Linux.