Looks like mkvmaker is getting in on UHD ripping

Discussion in 'High Definition Software' started by gereral1, Dec 11, 2017.

  1. gereral1

    gereral1 Well-Known Member

  2. Pete

    Pete Forum Admin Staff Member

    No decryption, so all he's doing is lossless copies of readily decrypted UHDs.
    That's not much of a change, decrypted UHDs are practically BDs with a different video codec, so all he did was support the different flags right.

    CloneBD does that as well, but also re-compresses UHD and can convert HDR and color space.
    Personally, I find that more interesting by far (y)
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  3. manixx2020

    manixx2020 Well-Known Member

    What about Dolby vision?
  4. DrinkLyeAndDie

    DrinkLyeAndDie Retired Moderator

    @Pete , some UHD VUKs (AACS 2.0) have been posted online. This is more than just copying an already decrypted discs. MakeMKV already had the ability to use VUKs from lists and it also works with UHD. So, yes, MakeMKV, is decrypting if people have the necessary VUKs. People who have tested DeUHD are also testing this and reporting success.

    I'm all for DeUHD and CloneBD but it is useful to have another player on the field. It'll be interesting to see if this method can keep pace with DeUHD. Depends on the source of the VUKs, I suppose.

    NOTE: Personally, not sure whether it's wise to have a list of those VUKs in these forums, however.
  5. RedFox 1

    RedFox 1 Super Moderator

    I soft deleted them until I get further advice.
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  6. mhalter81

    mhalter81 Active Member

    I've done a small amount of testing this morning with one of my 4k titles with MAKEMKV and available VUKs. I don't have the "uhd friendly" drives that were posted elsewhere, nevertheless was able to successfully create a complete backup of the title I tried with both LG drives I own. The drives I have are WH14NS40 (which I believe is the older version of the WH16NS40), and the UH12NS40. I plan to do more testing as time permits.
  7. James

    James Redfox Development Team Staff Member

    Are your drives really UHD-BluRay certified? (You can test with Cyberlink's Blu-ray advisor tool)

    Link https://www.cyberlink.com/prog/bd-support/diagnosis.do
  8. Maddock

    Maddock Well-Known Member

    i have the KEYDB File, makemkv decrypted 72 UHDs.

    this drive works:

    UHD friendly drives:

    LG BE16NU50
    LG WH16NS40
    LG BH16NS40
    ASUS BW-12B1ST
    ASUS BC-12D2HT
    ASUS BW-16D1HT
    LG BH16NS55
    LG WH16NS58
  9. BRCS

    BRCS Well-Known Member

    No they are not but they will read UHD discs and being they are not certified for UHD playback from what I have read this is how they are getting the keys to open the UHD movies.
  10. Maddock

    Maddock Well-Known Member

    i use the LG BH16NS55, the UHD Drive from Buffalo and Pioneer don't work.
  11. mhalter81

    mhalter81 Active Member

    @James, No these are not UHD certified drives as BRCS pointed out. Maddock shared the list of non certified "UHD friendly" drives that are known to work. For whatever reason the 2 drives that I listed are also working.
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  12. James

    James Redfox Development Team Staff Member

    Ah, this makes sense. I was mistaken, because you said "I don't have the "uhd friendly" drives" I assumed you have "real" UHD drives.
  13. RedFox 1

    RedFox 1 Super Moderator

    • LG WH16NS60(internal, recommended) - Good UHD drive
    • Buffalo BRUHD-PU3(external, USB, highly recommended) - Best UHD drive
    • LG BU40N(internal slim/laptop)
    • LG BU50N(internal slim/laptop)
    • LG BP60NB10(external, USB) - Excellent UHD drive
    UHD friendly drives:

    • LG BE16NU50(external, USB, recommended)
    • LG WH16NS40(internal, SVC code: NS50) - This drive must say SVC Code NS50 on the rear for it to work. That means it had to be manufactured after 2016.
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  14. Badnews

    Badnews Guest

    I went to Doom9 and downloaded the keys and made the .cfg file and put it in the correct .MakeMKV dir and it did copy Deepwater Horizon UHD fast. But it only worked on my LG BE16NU50 external drive. It failed on the new LG WH16NS60 UHD drive

    For a free test it worked but other than that, DeUHD's time is limited. Every ones time is limited for that matter.
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  15. Badnews

    Badnews Guest

    I have this drive also and it rips UHD don't upgrade the firmware stay @ 1.02 s-l1600.jpg s-l1600.jpg , but my sticker is on the top not the back
  16. ocean

    ocean Well-Known Member

    Hi, drive LG BE16NU50, in case bus encryption is enabled on the disc, valid host certificate is required, UHD-friendly drive allows loophole, subscrive a valid AACS1 host certificate, this protection can be circumvented, this can not be done with LG WH16NS60.
  17. Badnews

    Badnews Guest

    Correct unless I use DeUHD which I used in test mode. I would pay 20 a yr for it that's about all.
  18. Curtis

    Curtis Active Member

    There is apparently issues with DV in a .mkv. Don't recall the specifics but the net is that mkv doesn't know how to store it correctly and/or allow for correct playback. Doesn't stop you from making the MKV of course, it just (apparently) isn't giving you DV playback.
  19. Badnews

    Badnews Guest

    I play 7.1 back, but i'm loading it in a Oppo standalone player not some computer software player.
  20. manixx2020

    manixx2020 Well-Known Member

    Dolby vision is hdr10+ not audio.