is AnyDVD the problem or the solution

Discussion in 'AnyDVD HD (Blu-ray issues)' started by peterbus, Feb 21, 2008.

  1. peterbus

    peterbus Well-Known Member

    maybe this bd+ is a result of slysoft trying to break the blue ray protection.

    (IS IT THE OLD CHICKEN OR THE EGG PROBLEM).

    just a thought.

    P.S. Anydvdhd rocks.:rock:
     
  2. DrinkLyeAndDie

    DrinkLyeAndDie Retired Moderator

    BD support in AnyDVD was officially released on March 5th, 2007.

    BD+ was available to content providers in June 2007.

    It's not like BD+ was created and finalized in a mere 3 months. BD+ is not the result of Slysoft working on BD.

    There is no "chicken or the egg" situation here.
     
    Last edited: Feb 21, 2008
  3. Clams

    Clams Well-Known Member

    True... but there is a vicious circle. Someone builds a better moustrap, Slysoft builds a better mouse - rinse and repeat.

    -W
     
  4. Jong

    Jong Well-Known Member

    There is no doubt that BD+ was a response to the successful cracking of DVDs (in part by AnyDVD). But the logical alternative of never cracking anything so there is no need to improve the protection does not help us much!
     
  5. DrinkLyeAndDie

    DrinkLyeAndDie Retired Moderator


    AACS
    which is mandatory on BD releases requires a license. BD+ also, I'm sure, requires yet another license. So a studio releaseing a BD release with BD+ has just paid out quite bit of cash for two licenses.

    I think we all know that sooner or later BD+ will be broken and AACS has already been overcome although each new MKB version will need to be dealt with as it comes along. Region coding in BD was overcome awhile ago. So, were all the new protection mechanisms in BD really to prevent making backups or was it for Sony and all the other related companies in terms of AACS & BD+ to make money off licensing.
     
  6. digitalfreak

    digitalfreak Well-Known Member

    I think it's also rather telling that only Fox uses BD+ (at least to my knowledge). You'd think that if it was THAT much better than plain old AACS that every BD studio (or should I say ALL studios at this point <g>) would be using it. Either there's a major flaw in BD+ that no-one outside the studios know about yet, or the licensing cost just isn't justifiable to most studios.
     
    Last edited: Feb 22, 2008
  7. Jong

    Jong Well-Known Member

    If I was them I would wait until HD piracy was a significant issue before coughing up for another licence and also risking player incompatibility, even assuming the technology works.
     
  8. Octavean

    Octavean Well-Known Member

    “You’re not paranoid if they are really out to get you”

    Famous words that mean a lot in my opinion.

    The issue is that the customers want to be able to backup their investment but the powers that be hand over fist don’t want to allow this on any (reasonable) level. The problem stems from the notion that they can or should prevent fair use in this way for fear of abuse.

    For example, if someone opens a store they understand that there may be some small percentage of loss due to theft. They typically accept this as part of doing business knowing full well that the majority of people walking in through their doors do so for legitimate business reasons not for theft.

    Now the acceptable cost for doing business seems to be inconveniencing the customer to any degree to attempt to assure zero loss due to theft,…..which isn’t even possible,….

    So the model is flawed but the idea has stuck.

    Fear is the real culprit here though. The fear of uncontrolled loss is what spawned the demand for BD+ and its predecessors, that and the mistaken notion that they have any real control. The fact that there are so many customers willing to do business is what spurs on sales but the industries refuse to see this do to said fear,…..to them we are either all thieves or we should all be treated as such.