How do I backup SecuROM data cds?

Discussion in 'CloneCD' started by Amby19, Nov 3, 2007.

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  1. Amby19

    Amby19 Member

    I just bought the very latest CloneCD to backup some Video Professor data CDs copy-protected with SecurROM (I don't know what version). I get no error messages during the backup, but when I try to use them it does not work!

    I get the message: "original disc could not be found or authenticated".

    Are there some special features or something I must enable, or something to that effect?
     
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  2. Webslinger

    Webslinger Retired Moderator

    Clonecd won't help you with the latest Securerom protections. They require emulation. Use Game Jackal
     
  3. Ajax

    Ajax Well-Known Member

    What version of SecurROM are you trying to crack.
     
  4. Amby19

    Amby19 Member

    How do I determine the version number?

    I don't know how to determine the SecuROM version. I've launched the original disks and a SecuROM welcome-type screen comes up, but it does not display the version.

    Any idea how to find out?



    FYI, I see the following message come up. I always click "allow".

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  5. Amby19

    Amby19 Member

    Even though it's not a game? I've seen posts saying things along those lines, but they were all related to games, not data cds.

    I'm certainly not doubting your expertise, but if what you say is correct, I would be most angry with the false advertisement, which states:

    (emphasis mine).


    So are you 100% certain that CloneCD's advertisements are false?
     
  6. Webslinger

    Webslinger Retired Moderator

    Yes


    I never stated this, and the wording does not specifically indicate what specific protection is being referenced.
     
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  7. Amby19

    Amby19 Member

    It is true that you never explicitly stated that, but then I never claimed you had explicitly done so, only that your proposed solution implies that it is a false ad. What I noted was that SlySoft makes the explicit, specific claim that CloneCD will allow the user to back up ANY data CD with ANY copy-protection scheme whatsoever (See my earlier quotation of their ad).

    That does not matter in the least, since SlySoft's advertising explicitly says it will work with ANY data CD with ANY copy-protection scheme.

    Respectfully, therefore, if Game Jackal is required, then SlySoft HAS issued a false ad. Since it seems unlikely that SlySoft would publish false advertising, it seems to me that Game Jackal probably isn't the only solution.
     
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  8. evlncrn8

    evlncrn8 Well-Known Member

    well to be fair 'regardless' does imply it can backup the disk without a care for the protection...

    regardless -> adv. In spite of everything; anyway: continues to work regardless.

    so

    it doesn't need to... regardless nullifies any need to specifically indicate what specific protection is being referred to because 'regardless' is a 'catch all' word...

    clonecd used to be able to do securom 4/5, securom 7 i think it has problems with....
     
  9. Amby19

    Amby19 Member

    evlncrn8: I agree with your analysis, of course.
     
  10. pseudo555

    pseudo555 Moderator (fr)

    Wait a sec: Clonecd have done a copy, but the copy doesn't work.
    So Clonecd can make backup copies of your music and data CDs, regardless of copy protection.
    BUT the copy can or can't work... :D


    For the securom version, the easiest way to find it, is to use ProtectionID, and scan the program/game's repertory.

    Clonecd can make perfect copy for securom above 4.7*. After you need a special feature in your burner called varirec, which only implements on plextor burner and works in plextor premium only. But clonecd can't use it.
    For more details, take a look about securom 4.7*, 4.8*, 5 or 7, or why dpm analys is important in such case.
     
  11. Amby19

    Amby19 Member

    Thanks to pseudo555, I now know that these data CDs are copy-protected with SecuROM v 7.21
     
  12. Webslinger

    Webslinger Retired Moderator

    You are mistaken

    You are mistaken. Perhaps you can quote where they used the word "any".

    The only time the word "any" is used is here:
    You are mistaken.

    You are mistaken.

    Slysoft didn't issue a false advert, but if you want want to backup Securerom 7.x, you can't with Clonecd (or anything actually without emulation).
     
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  13. Webslinger

    Webslinger Retired Moderator

    And again, they're not specifically mentioning what protection is being referenced. They didn't "regardless of any" nor "regardless of all"


    No. It's not (and I've graded a few English papers at the undergraduate level)

    Regardless, arguing about what Slysoft stated isn't going to change the fact Clonecd won't help Amby19 with the original disc.
     
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  14. Webslinger

    Webslinger Retired Moderator

    Then stop wasting both my time and yours by asking questions that are useless.

    Thread closed. :policeman:
     
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  15. Webslinger

    Webslinger Retired Moderator

    Amby19, for reporting this thread after it was closed and being disrespectful, you have been banned for a week. Should you continue the same behaviour I will ban you permanently.

    1. Clonecd can not handle the latest Securerom protections without emulation. In fact, nothing can. You can try Game Jackal or move onto Third Party Products.

    2. Slysoft does not state Clonecd handles ALL protections anywhere on Slysoft's site.


    :policeman:
     
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