First try; two "Main features" on 3D disc?

Discussion in 'CloneBD' started by DukeOfUrl, May 18, 2019.

  1. DukeOfUrl

    DukeOfUrl Well-Known Member

    Trying CloneBD v1.2.5.0 64-bit for the very first time, loaded The Great Gatsby 3D for Movie Only backup, and there are Main features #1 and #2 of identical length, though the "Estimated uncompressed size" is close-but-not exact for each.

    Can someone please tell me that the is normal for a 3D movie? That these two "features" represent the two images that comprise the 3D and should both be selected? It's confusing because CloneBD also wants to make a menu for the two titles, which of course I do not want.

    It seems also CloneBD will allow me to make a BDMV folder of this, but I thought it only did mkvs of 3D discs?

    I should note that I want to make a 1:1 copy i.e. no processing anywhere--maybe CloneBD will make a 3D BDMV folder?
     
    Last edited: May 18, 2019
  2. James

    James Redfox Development Team Staff Member

    I don't think CloneBD can make a 1:1 3D copy yet. Only 3D mkvs (SBS or frame packed). You need to create an iso with AnyDVD.
     
  3. DukeOfUrl

    DukeOfUrl Well-Known Member

    Got it, thank you James.
     
  4. Ch3vr0n

    Ch3vr0n Translator NL & Mod

    It can't, been asking for that function since the start. Apparently it's on the Todo list. But 'low priority', for me it's high priority but I'm no dev.

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  5. James

    James Redfox Development Team Staff Member

    Poor elbys recently bought a LG TV for DobyVision & HDR tests, but just realized, the stupid TV can't display 3D anymore. This pretty much mirrors the current situation: 3D at home is dead as a doornail. Apart from projectors you can't even buy a 3D TV anymore.
    What they should do, is add a real 1:1 copy mode mode like CloneCD or CloneDVD has. At least then you can copy 3D discs 1:1.
    I am not elby, but investing more money in a dying technology is probably unwise. Better add more useful options for non-disc display (who wants discs anymore? With NAS streaming, Nvidia Shield, Kodi, Plex, etc...), like subtitle conversion using OCR, black bars cropping, adding non-disc sources for input, ....

    EDIT: This is the humble opinion of a 3D fan since forever, owning an LG E6 with pretty much the best 3D picture possible at home.

    EDIT2: I believe elby did the right (bold) move, supporting 3D frame packing with mkv quite early. Perfect quality with NAS convenience.
    It is not elby's fault the Zidoos, Dune-HDs, ... did not care to support the format.
     
    Last edited: May 19, 2019
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  6. Ch3vr0n

    Ch3vr0n Translator NL & Mod

    They could take a look at bd-rebuilder it can perfectly shrink 3d discs that play fine on standalone players using a non-SSIF file based system (using FRIM), just doesn't support gpu encoding. If clbd did. I would have no more use for bdrb.

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  7. James

    James Redfox Development Team Staff Member

    Which players did you test? I somehow doubt an older Oppo player will play 3D without ssif, but I can try if I find some time. I don't know, if Nvidia/Inel/AMD support 3D GPU encoding. You can try creating a compressed, frame packed mkv. What is FRIM?
     
  8. Ch3vr0n

    Ch3vr0n Translator NL & Mod

    FRIM encoder/decoder (available through doom9), and I tried my old Panasonic DMP-BD85 as well as 2x Bd110's. Plays them perfectly. The way jdobbs calls it is 'in-mux' 3d, fully bd standard compliant.

    Plays perfectly on hardware players, though software players like PowerDVD don't seem to fully support it. They play, but with visual artifacts, which aren't there on a standalone player.

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  9. tectpro

    tectpro Translator (ms_MY)

    Yes, Intel can do 3D GPU encoding. There's one program I am aware off that uses it.

    It uses the Intel Media SDK https://software.intel.com/en-us/media-sdk/features
     
    Last edited: May 20, 2019