CyberLink PowerDVD 18 UHD-PlayBack Protection?

Discussion in 'AnyDVD HD (UHD only)' started by DJHallo, Mar 22, 2018.

  1. DJHallo

    DJHallo Well-Known Member

    Problem:
    I was wondering when import a UHD Disc into you're Drive and want to play it with you're Computer, you get the following Error.

    Error:

    Ultra HD Blu-Rays cannot currently be played on this computer.
    Please make sure your graphics processor (GPU) meets the system requirements for Ultra-HD Blu-Rays, and update driver to latest version. Error 01002.

    Question:
    I know I can play UHD with Classic Media Player with MadVR support.
    So I was wondering do you think you can make it possible with AnyDVD to bypass this aswel, just like with the Cinavia Protection.
    I notice when try to play The Smurfs 3 UHD it shows the Loading Screen for a few seconds and after that it gives the Error, because CyberLink has impleted this Protection into this software.
    Why i want to have it work with PowerDVD because I can have everthing working like the Movie Menu + Movie Pop-Up Menu, and this isn't possible with Classic Media Player.

    Also maybe to have MadVR into it aswel for UHD to BD-SD.
     
    Last edited: Mar 22, 2018
  2. Ch3vr0n

    Ch3vr0n Translator NL & Mod

    That's no protection. Your display is hooked up to a graphics card I presume?

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  3. Adbear

    Adbear Well-Known Member

    This is not a copy protection issue but a requirement built into PowerDVD for playback of UHD discs. It has to have a secure pathway for playback which means you have to play back through an Intel GPU that supports SGX
     
  4. Aeneas72

    Aeneas72 Well-Known Member

    Does this mean that I cannot watch UHDs on my PC if I have a GeForce 1070Ti graphics card? SGX can be activated in the BIOS of my mainboard, that I know...

    And my CPU is an i9 7900-X!
     
  5. Ch3vr0n

    Ch3vr0n Translator NL & Mod

    It's specifically stated under PowerDVD uhd system requirements that the display needs to be hooked up to the iGPU. Encrypted or not doesn't matter, cyberlink enforces it hardcoded.

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  6. tgp7777777

    tgp7777777 Well-Known Member

    Yes, but I think the point of the question is, in the same way that Anydvd automagically tells Powerdvd that Cinavia doesn't exist, could it tell Powerdvd that the hardware it requires is there. PDVD doesn't actually NEED these hardware requirements as it plays the Mt2S file OK on it's own, at the end of the day it is just a protection mechanism.
     
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  7. Aeneas72

    Aeneas72 Well-Known Member

    Does this mean that absolutely new hardware (e.g. my CPU/GPU) is not supported?

    This would be utmost nonsense, in my opinion...
     
  8. Ch3vr0n

    Ch3vr0n Translator NL & Mod

    Your CPU is fine, it has an internal GPU and that's where the uhd monitor needs to be hooked up to. Not a damn thing RedFox or anyone but cyberlink can do about it.

    The next generation MIGHT work if Nvidia adds SGX support. The 10xx doesn't, neither does my 1080.

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  9. Pete

    Pete Forum Admin Staff Member

    The protection requirements for UHD playback are sick and disgusting, the people who put those specifications up are not the best businessmen.
    This makes it all the more important, that there are tools to circumvent the protection.

    I don't know the details of your board. It is NOT enough to have SGX support. It is also NOT enough to have a Kaby Lake processor or higher with the appropriate Intel GPU.
    You have to have a specific mainboard out of a very short list of supported ones. Requirement is HDMI 2.0/HDCP 2.2 - the GPU itself does not provide this by itself.

    PowerDVD's UHD playback, or rather the "protected hardware support" is very buggy.
    There are so many elements involved (GPU, mainboard, CPU, internet connection, drive, ...), that a single little glitch brings the whole thing tumbling down.
    Usually not even with as much as a hint telling you where to look and fix it.

    I know from our test rig, that one day it performed fine, the next day - no change at all - it gave out the same error you're getting (01002).
    A day later it worked again.

    The only way to decently watch UHD discs on a PC atm is to use AnyDVD and some software player other than PowerDVD to watch the stuff with protection removed.
    The "legal" way is a dead end, it just doesn't work right.
    Also, thanks to the insane restrictions, no other company bothers to produce a UHD player for PCs which leaves a monopoly with Cyberlink having no need to be better than the competition.
    That's not healthy.

    (don't know if it came across, but personally, I'm really pissed off with how they are treating their Ultra-HD customers - work-wise, it's a blessing).
     
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  10. Aeneas72

    Aeneas72 Well-Known Member

    My mainboard is an ASUS X299-Deluxe and it does not have a built-in HDMI output, therefore I have my GeForce 1070Ti! As stated above my GPU is a Skylake-X (7900X)...

    Are you serious that PowerDVD does not support playback of UHDs with this combination of hardware?
     
  11. Ch3vr0n

    Ch3vr0n Translator NL & Mod

    Unfortunately, for the third time, no. It's specifically stated in the PowerDVD uhd system requirements that the display device MUST BE hooked up to the iGPU.

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  12. Aeneas72

    Aeneas72 Well-Known Member

    These requirements are valid for PDVD 17, but are they also valid for PDVD 18?
     
  13. hadar

    hadar Well-Known Member

    Yes, read about them here.
     
  14. Pete

    Pete Forum Admin Staff Member

    Yeah, no, forget it. Skylake (K or X don't matter) won't do. Kaby Lake and above is not Cyberlink's requirement, it's AACS's.
    The speed is not the point (if it were, an old dual core would do fine, UHD playback doesn't require much CPU, the GPU does the heavy lifting).
     
  15. Aeneas72

    Aeneas72 Well-Known Member

    But isn't Skylake-X newer than Kabylake?
     
  16. spcav

    spcav Beta Tester

    I agree 100%

    I found my UHD cerfified HTPC to work / not to wrk (UHD playback with PDVD 17) day by day.

    What a mess this company is...

    I really miss TMT...
     
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  17. Aeneas72

    Aeneas72 Well-Known Member

    Does VLC 3.01 play UHDs?
     
  18. Pete

    Pete Forum Admin Staff Member

    A few months, yes. But still a Skylake, so the "old" architecture.
     
  19. Pete

    Pete Forum Admin Staff Member

    Trust me, TMT would be struggling with these particular AACS2-requirements just as much.
    I believe, the Intel GPU drivers are playing their part in the resulting unreliability as well.
     
  20. spcav

    spcav Beta Tester

    Haven't tried it

    But MPC-BE (better over MPC-HC as it outputs correctly HDR metadata) + madVR + NVidia 1xxx is OK
     
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