copy protection discussion

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by plato, Dec 19, 2007.

  1. plato

    plato Well-Known Member

    I am not able to understand those guys from the film industry who are dissipating so much money for new copy protection. It is an unwritten law that every copy protection can be cracked and investing so much money won't make DVD's cheaper for the customers! :mad:
  2. Charlie

    Charlie Well-Known Member

    Let me add that I bought a new title yesterday and the thing skipped and stopped playing to now the backup was flawless of course without these issues. Then they wonder why people want to do this....well the backup is more playable than the original I feel.
  3. James

    James Redfox Development Team Staff Member

    I am not sure what you are saying. The new Czech protection is *not* fixed.
    Please keep this thread on topic. Thank you.

    EDIT: Feel free to make political statements about the usefulness of copy protections in another thread. This is a thread for development feedback , I don't want it to be filled up with small talk.
    Last edited: Dec 19, 2007
  4. plato

    plato Well-Known Member

    In some way they are right, because there are people who are copying the original in order to sell the copies to make money. And if studios investing 140 million $ for a movie ("Miami Vice") they do have some reason to protect their products.
    But this can be no reason to punish their costumers who buy the original DVD but can not watch it due to the player has problems with the copy protection.
  5. James

    James Redfox Development Team Staff Member

    Strike. Please do not post off topic.
  6. Charlie

    Charlie Well-Known Member

    Sorry about that James. Thanks again for the update.
  7. plato

    plato Well-Known Member

    Of course. I appreciate your work and I want to apologise for spamming your thread.

    I have also understood that the Czech protection has not been cracked so far, but I am very sure this will happen in the next time.
    Last edited: Dec 19, 2007
  8. plato

    plato Well-Known Member

    I personally think that it is just a question of time until there will be no more new DVD copy protection since BluRay and HD will replace the DVD.
    But this will also mean that we will have to purchase one of the new medium because more and more movies will not be released on DVD.
    This will also be a problem due to the fact that movies are released either on BluRay or HD depending on the studio. If I have a BluRay player I will not be able to watch HD.
    Last edited: Dec 19, 2007
  9. Charlie

    Charlie Well-Known Member

    Yes this is how they continue to make money they release a new format and people upgrade their collection but at least this time we can playback our SD's on these players.
  10. ivanX

    ivanX Translator (ru)

    They keep making money, Slysoft keeps making money: it's all about making money!

    P.S. No, I haven't just come to such conclusion :D
  11. plato

    plato Well-Known Member

    For sure ;)

    What I wanted to say is that customers should better use their power and not buying every product on the market. It would be also nice if Microsoft goes down the tube because of some serious facts:
    DirectX 10 is solely released for Windows Vista, what is seriously concerning gamers
    They turn a deaf ear to costumers demanding more users privacy
  12. Frank

    Frank SlySoft Support Team

    About making money

    It's not that simple although it may appear that way.

    Where would we be if not for innovation?

    And if innovation addresses a need and offers good price/performance why not make money with it? ;)
  13. plato

    plato Well-Known Member

    I agree with you. But there must always be a good protection of privacy. Microsoft is obviously not interested in this.
  14. Clams

    Clams Well-Known Member

    Bzzzzt! DX-10 Cannot be ported to XP - Vista uses an entirely different graphics engine than any previous version of Windows. Search on a post I made about a year ago quoting a game dev that I know.

  15. plato

    plato Well-Known Member

    Impossible is nothing. Look at James and AnyDVD: There is no copy protection that makes it impossible to create a backup of any DVD.;)
  16. Pelvis Popcan

    Pelvis Popcan Well-Known Member

    There is at least one project I know of that's working to get DX10 running on XP, however, it will be done through emulation. While DX10 may run, there will be zero hardware acceleration; it will all have to go through the CPU, so it will probably not run very efficiently.

    But you know, it's better than having to run Vista. :D
  17. plato

    plato Well-Known Member

    And that is exactly the point: it is an inofficial project and the program will not be released by Microsoft. My Windows XP is original and I payed a lot of money for it, so Microsoft could provide DX10 as an update for Windows XP users.
    Although I do not want to swear for religious reasons I state that I will never buy Vista!
  18. deaacs

    deaacs Well-Known Member

    That's true, I bought a DVD for a family member as a present and had to return it because it skipped. They didn't have any from a new shipment and the competing retailer wouldn't tell me if they've had theirs returned (even though the DVD was recalled by the publisher) - making getting a working copy very difficuilt indeed!
    [OFFTOPIC]Why don't you produce you're own competing DX10-clone product then? It wouldn't be that hard, after all - all the features of DX10 are documented for you to reproduce with your own code![/OFFTOPIC]
    Last edited: Dec 26, 2007
  19. plato

    plato Well-Known Member

    I am not a programmer. ;)

    But you seem to ignore the most important fact:
    The discussion is about DX10 not being offered officially by Microsoft for Windows XP!
  20. Clams

    Clams Well-Known Member

    Because it CAN'T be.... like the man said... that 3rd party DX10 emulator puts everything through the CPU..... therefore rendering a gaming machine useless at rendering at any speed meaningful for gaming with. Get it now?

    The real problem is the games that *won't* support DX-9c - and that IS on purpose.

    Last edited: Dec 29, 2007