CloneDVD quality

Discussion in 'CloneDVD' started by rod60, Aug 13, 2007.

  1. rod60

    rod60 Member

    DetroitBaseball and Zebadee gave me assistance yesterday with a burning problem which seem to have fixed the issue however I have just burnt a movie and the quality was poor, it frooze and scrambled in places. As a first step I have downloaded ImgBurn and posted the filter file below I have also posted the status information on the disk being copied from from AnyDVD. Any assistanhce advice would be appreciated.

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    Filter Driver Load Order - ImgBurn v2.3.2.0
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    Upper Device Filter: redbook
    Upper Class Filter: GEARAspiWDM
    Device: CD/DVD-ROM Device
    Lower Class Filter: AFS2K
    Lower Class Filter: cdrbsdrv
    Lower Class Filter: AnyDVD
    Lower Class Filter: ElbyDelay
    Lower Device Filter: imapi

    Filter Name: redbook
    File Name: C:\WINDOWS\System32\DRIVERS\redbook.sys
    File Version: 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
    File Description: Redbook Audio Filter Driver
    Product Name: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
    Product Version: 5.1.2600.2180
    Company Name: Microsoft Corporation
    Copyright: © Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

    Filter Name: GEARAspiWDM
    File Name: C:\WINDOWS\System32\Drivers\GEARAspiWDM.sys
    File Version: 2.0.6.1
    File Description: CD/DVD Class Filter Driver
    Product Name: GEAR.wrks
    Product Version: 8.xx [2.0.6.1]
    Company Name: GEAR Software Inc.
    Copyright: Copyright (c) GEAR Software Inc. 2006

    Filter Name: AFS2K
    File Name: C:\WINDOWS\system32\Drivers\AFS2K.sys
    File Version: 3.1.21.1103 [3.1.21.0]
    File Description: Audio File System
    Product Name: AFS
    Product Version: 3.1.21.2(1103) [3.1.21.0]
    Company Name: Oak Technology Inc.
    Copyright: Copyright (C) Oak Technology Inc.

    Filter Name: cdrbsdrv
    File Name: C:\WINDOWS\system32\Drivers\cdrbsdrv.sys
    File Version: 7. 0. 0. 5 [7.5.0.0]
    File Description: CD-ROM Filter Driver for Windows2000/xp
    Product Name: B's Recorder GOLD7
    Product Version: 7. 5. 0. 0 [7.5.0.0]
    Company Name: B.H.A Corporation
    Copyright: Copyright (C) 2000-2004 B.H.A Corporation

    Filter Name: AnyDVD
    File Name: C:\WINDOWS\System32\Drivers\AnyDVD.sys
    File Version: 6.1.7.0
    File Description: AnyDVD Filter Driver
    Product Name: AnyDVD
    Product Version: 6.1.7.0
    Company Name: SlySoft, Inc.
    Copyright: Copyright 2002 - 2007 SlySoft, Inc.

    Filter Name: ElbyDelay
    File Name: C:\WINDOWS\System32\Drivers\ElbyDelay.sys
    File Version: 5, 1, 0, 1 [5.1.0.1]
    File Description: Elby Delay Lower Filter Driver
    Product Name: CDRTools
    Product Version: 5, 1, 0, 1 [5.1.0.1]
    Company Name: Elaborate Bytes AG
    Copyright: Copyright (C) 2003 - 2006 Elaborate Bytes AG

    Filter Name: imapi
    File Name: C:\WINDOWS\System32\DRIVERS\imapi.sys
    File Version: 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
    File Description: IMAPI Kernel Driver
    Product Name: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
    Product Version: 5.1.2600.2180
    Company Name: Microsoft Corporation
    Copyright: © Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

    Summary for drive D: (AnyDVD 6.1.7.0)
    LITE-ON DVDRW LH-20A1P KL0N 2007/06/13 14:37
    Drive (Hardware) Region: 4

    Media is a DVD.
    Booktype: dvd-rom (version 1), Layers: 2 (opposite)
    Size of first Layer: 1857264 sectors (3627 MBytes)
    Total size: 3560112 sectors (6953 MBytes)

    Video DVD (or CD) label: THE_KING_AND_I
    Media is CSS protected!
    Video Standard: PAL
    Media is locked to region(s): 2 4!

    RCE protection not found.
    DVD structure appears to be correct.
    Structural copy protection not found.
    Autorun not found on Video DVD.
    Bad sector protection not found.
    Emulating RPC-2 drive with region 2!

    Regards, Rod60
     
  2. bjproc

    bjproc Well-Known Member

    Last edited: Aug 13, 2007
  3. rod60

    rod60 Member

    Using two different DVD:

    TDK DVD-R
    Nero CD-DVD Speed: Disc Info
    Basic Information
    Disc type: : DVD-R
    Book Type : DVD-R
    Manufacturer: : unknown
    MID : TTH02
    Write speeds: : 2 X - 4 X - 6 X - 8 X - 12 X - 16 X - 18 X
    Blank Capacity : 4.38 GB
    : 4489 MB
    : 4707321856 bytes
    Extended Information
    Layers : 1
    Usage : General
    Copyright protection : n/a
    Recorder information
    Disc Status : Empty
    Raw Data
    Pre-recorded Information in Lead-in (0Eh)
    0000 - 01 40 C1 FD 9E D8 52 00 02 84 0D 12 98 99 90 00 - .@....R.........
    0010 - 03 54 54 48 30 32 00 00 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - .TTH02..........
    0020 - 05 88 80 00 00 00 02 00 D4 08 07 00 08 00 00 00 - ................
    0030 - 08 00 0A 00 88 3E 91 7C 1A 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 - .....>.|........
    0040 - 26 09 04 00 01 00 00 02 28 18 11 00 14 00 00 00 - &.......(.......
    0050 - 04 00 00 00 70 35 49 00 20 00 00 00 14 00 16 00 - ....p5I.........
    0060 - 00 FC FD 7F 10 0F 11 00 06 00 00 00 38 8E 17 00 - ............8...

    Verbatim:
    Nero CD-DVD Speed: Disc Info
    Basic Information
    Disc type: : DVD-R
    Book Type : DVD-R
    Manufacturer: : CMC
    MID : CMC MAG. AM3
    Write speeds: : 2 X - 4 X - 6 X - 8 X - 12 X - 16 X
    Blank Capacity : 4.38 GB
    : 4489 MB
    : 4707321856 bytes
    Extended Information
    Layers : 1
    Usage : General
    Copyright protection : n/a
    Recorder information
    Disc Status : Empty
    Raw Data
    Pre-recorded Information in Lead-in (0Eh)
    0000 - 01 40 C1 FD 9E D8 52 00 02 84 0D 12 98 99 90 00 - .@....R.........
    0010 - 03 43 4D 43 20 4D 41 00 04 47 2E 20 41 4D 33 00 - .CMC.MA..G..AM3.
    0020 - 05 88 80 00 00 00 02 00 D4 08 07 00 08 00 00 00 - ................
    0030 - 08 00 0A 00 88 3E 91 7C 1A 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 - .....>.|........
    0040 - 5C BC 11 00 B8 6F 17 00 38 0F 11 00 14 00 00 00 - \....o..8.......
    0050 - 04 00 00 00 FF FF FF FF 2A 88 41 7E 14 00 16 00 - ........*.A~....
    0060 - 00 FC FD 7F 10 0F 11 00 06 00 00 00 38 8E 17 00 - ............8...
     
  4. Coaster

    Coaster Well-Known Member

    @ rod60,

    Verbatim Mitsubishi Chemicals (MCC) did not manufacture your supposedly “Verbatim” Media.

    Mitsubishi Chemicals (MCC) manufactures “REAL” Verbatim Media. Real Verbatim media will have a MCC MID code. CMC MAG. AM3 MID code is not a Verbatim Mitsubishi Chemicals (MCC) MID code but is a CMC Magnetics MID code.

    Your supposedly “Verbatim” Media has a CMC Media code, which signifies that CMC Magnetics manufactured this particular Media. CMC Magnetics manufactured Media is usually poor quality Media.

    Concerning your TDK Media. Your TDK Media contains TTH02 MID code, which is a TDK MID code, but it should be noted that the Manufacture is listed as Unknown, which in my mind is suspect. All the Real TDK Media I have ever used always reveals the Manufacture as TDK. There have been reports that a TDK MID codes have been faked in the past. Faked MID codes generally indicate poor quality Media.

    Regards,
    Coaster
     
  5. rrose1968

    rrose1968 Well-Known Member

    Real Verbatim, Sony, Maxell are the ones I use 99.9% of the time because they are good and Sam's Club sells them cheap! About 1/2 price as compared to Office Depot. :D

    Usually changing brands helps all of those issues. I still have burn issues from time to time as it's going to happen some...but it's like 1-3 out of 300-500 so I think that's good enough. Make sure you don't burn them too fast either.
     
  6. Webslinger

    Webslinger Retired Moderator

    I'm not sure what distinction you are making here, but there is CMC made media that is legitimately sold under Verbatim's name, which is held to higher standards than the CMC that is sold under other brand names (same goes for Prodisc made Verbatim). And most Verbatim single layer blank media that is sold in North America is either made by CMC or Prodisc.

    I agree that MCC is Mitsubishi's plant and that Verbatim is a subsidiary of Mitsubishi Chemical Corporation (hence, blank media produced there is "real" Verbatim blank media), if that's what you're saying.

    If Verbatim media is made in Taiwan, it's made by CMC (I would avoid MAP6 and PAP6 serials found on the inner plastic hub) or Prodisc.
    If Verbatim media is made in India, it's made by MBIL (Moser Baer).
    If Verbatim media is made in Japan, it's most likely made by Taiyo Yuden.
    If it's made in Singapore, then it's made by Mitsubishi's plant (usually limited to RW and DL media).

    And a lot of CMC made blank media made for Verbatim is excellent (with some notable exceptions--the PAP6 and MAP6 serials, for one).

    And stay far away from TDK sold at Costco and regular Maxell blank media (not made in Japan)

    I would also recommend
    1) updating your burner's firmware if available
    2) burning at 8x, if you have been burning at 16x, on 16x rated blank media
    3) trying Taiyo Yuden Premium blank media
     
    Last edited: Aug 13, 2007
  7. rrose1968

    rrose1968 Well-Known Member

    If Prodisc makes Verbatim, would that mean Prodisc would be just as good quality? Just curious. I use to buy Prodisc and Ritek from Meritline.com and never had issues with them until I found Verbatim and others at Sam's Club for the same prices as the lesser expensiive from online. 100 16x Verbatim (non printable) for $32-38 isn't too bad.

    But once in a while no matter the brand, I'll run into 5 or 6 in a row either at the top or bottom of the spindle that just won't cooperate. But that's rare.
     
  8. Webslinger

    Webslinger Retired Moderator

    No. Stuff that is sold under Verbatim's name is typically held to higher standards. And with the excpetion of the PAP6 and MAP6 (CMC Verbatim serials), I actually prefer CMC made Verbatim discs to Prodisc Verbatim.
     
  9. rrose1968

    rrose1968 Well-Known Member

    I was going to say...then everyone would just buy Prodisc.

    As for the serials, are we speaking of the serial found on the inner ring of the burnable side? The very faint #'s...on mine anyway as I have hub printables at the moment. I think "CMDR" are the first digits. Or is this also somewhere on the outside of the package? I never really looked.
     
  10. Webslinger

    Webslinger Retired Moderator

    Visit http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=2589
     
  11. Webslinger

    Webslinger Retired Moderator

  12. rod60

    rod60 Member

    I'm amazed by the amount of knowledge on this forum and the willingness of people to share that knowledge.

    I have just started to burn the same disk at 8x and will see how that works out.

    Cannot source the Taiyo Yuden media locally (Tasmania, Australia) but have ordered some online.

    Thanks, Rod60
     
  13. rrose1968

    rrose1968 Well-Known Member

    I'll have to stick with my Verbatims, Sony's and such. Taiyo Yuden is a little pricey for me plus I can get mine at the local Sam's Club hub printable about 32 cents each. I have a friend with a 110 inch projection and he says he doesn't have any issues.
     
  14. DetroitBaseball

    DetroitBaseball Well-Known Member

    Verbatim and Sony should suffice.
     
  15. zapper

    zapper Well-Known Member

    Just wanted to say, Gee it took me a long time to figure out if I already have ANYDVD for a long time, why was I so stupid as to buy other DVD burning software instead of CloneDVD2???????

    That should had been a no brainer:mad: Well so far everything that have thrown at CloneDVD has worked perfect and have more controll on what I want on the final product.

    Will keep my fingers crossed, the software even play's on a High difinition DVd player at that, some programs won't.

    So far a happy camper here.:)