Casino royale pain in the rear

[Webslinger]

Sorry did not check the region code on the original this was a rental and has been returned, as I have never had a problem before it's something I don't even think about, I'm sure my code is North American.This is the first problem in 100's of movies backed up.

For future reference, I can't help people with rentals.

 

[AL_Buckeye]

Same Casino Royale Problem

I too am having problems backing up my purchased copy of Casino Royale. I tried using an earlier version of AnyDVD, but it didn't work. Updated to AnyDVD 6.1.3.3 as recommended in another thread and still have problems even trying to use CloneDVD (most recent version).

Status window from AnyDVD 6.1.3.3 is pasted below:

"Summary for drive D: (AnyDVD 6.1.3.3)
LG DVD-ROM DRD8160B 1.01 H.L.D.S.2001/10/25
Drive (Hardware) Region: 1

Media is a DVD.
Booktype: dvd-rom (version 1), Layers: 2 (opposite)
Size of first Layer: 2084960 sectors (4072 MBytes)
Total size: 4169920 sectors (8144 MBytes)

Video DVD (or CD) label: Casino Royale
Media is CSS protected!
Video Standard: NTSC
Media is locked to region(s): 1!

Warning: .bup file location is wrong, .bup processing disabled!"

The error message received from CloneDVD is attached.

Any thoughts?

 

[Webslinger]

Any thoughts?

The problem you're having has nothing to do with Clonedvd by the way.

As you can see here, Anydvd and Clonedvd have no problems with this title:
http://forum.slysoft.com/showpost.php?p=14702&postcount=1

 

[mmdavis]

AnyDVD Options

I too am having problems backing up my purchased copy of Casino Royale. I tried using an earlier version of AnyDVD, but it didn't work. Updated to AnyDVD 6.1.3.3 as recommended in another thread and still have problems even trying to use CloneDVD (most recent version).

Any thoughts?

One thing I'd do is check the AnyDVD options. I have had AnyDVD and CloneDVD for some time. After the upgrade to 6.1.3.3 I tried Casino Royale. AnyDVD did not give me the results it should have (based on other threads on this subject), and CloneDVD gave me errors for drive had invalid file. I found the "Use CSS Key Archive" option was checked which never has been. There were a couple of other changes as well. It worked after that.

 

[yetanotherdegree]

Yes, that's true. I have the 2.4.5.0 installed but I didn't try going direct with it. I used VobBlanker to rip while blanking out some stuff and then did my backup. (Yea, I could have just used CloneDVD to blank out some titlesets and rip before using Recode...I was just playing around). Came out great. But since they're using an older version of Recode they're either going to have to do something to rip it and clean it or upgrade Recode.

Like many, I use AnyDVD with DVD Shrink. So I tried the VobBlanker (2.1.2.0) solution, but got the following error when I ran it on the files ripped to the HDD by AnyDVD:

ERROR:MAX VTS limit (99) has been reached.

I then downloaded FixVTS and ran it on the files ripped to the HDD by AnyDVD. This processed fine.

Next, I went back to see if DVD Shrink would work on the FixVTS-ized files and to my delight, it did. So here it is again, step by step:

1) downloand FixVTS and install it
2) rip the DVD to your HDD
3) run FixVTS on the entire DVD (HDD file set)
4) run Shrink on the FixVTS-ized files on your HDD

It's a little more work, but this worked for me without having to buy anything else.

 

[DrinkLyeAndDie]

So I tried the VobBlanker (2.1.2.0) solution, but got the following error when I ran it on the files ripped to the HDD by AnyDVD:

ERROR:MAX VTS limit (99) has been reached.

FixVTS remaps and makes the disc more compliant but if you update to VobBlanker 2.1.3.0 beta 8 and you won't get the error message anymore about the MAX VTS limit. Otherwise, your method should work very nicely.

Unfortunately, the OP doesn't have any of these options because either the disc is flawed to begin with or their drive just doesn't want to read it for some reason. They should try another DVD drive and see if they can read it. If not then return it for a replacement.

 

[SamuriHL]

Like many, I use AnyDVD with DVD Shrink. So I tried the VobBlanker (2.1.2.0) solution, but got the following error when I ran it on the files ripped to the HDD by AnyDVD:

ERROR:MAX VTS limit (99) has been reached.

I then downloaded FixVTS and ran it on the files ripped to the HDD by AnyDVD. This processed fine.

Next, I went back to see if DVD Shrink would work on the FixVTS-ized files and to my delight, it did. So here it is again, step by step:

1) downloand FixVTS and install it
2) rip the DVD to your HDD
3) run FixVTS on the entire DVD (HDD file set)
4) run Shrink on the FixVTS-ized files on your HDD

It's a little more work, but this worked for me without having to buy anything else.

DrinkLyeAndDie answered this one but I want to reiterate that the latest VobBlanker beta does indeed solve the VTS limit error and works just fine. Your method of ripping first with AnyDVD and then running FixVTS has been shown to not work with all titles recently. Specifically that process failed on The Grudge2 and Saw3. DVD Shrink was still not able to open the file after FixVTS was run.

IMO, this new protection version sucks as it's completely screwing with the DVD structure to make it a very non-compliant disc. This should be frowned upon. There are stand alone players that have issues with these discs. One could correctly call them defective.

 

[DrinkLyeAndDie]

DrinkLyeAndDie answered this one but I want to reiterate that the latest VobBlanker beta does indeed solve the VTS limit error and works just fine. Your method of ripping first with AnyDVD and then running FixVTS has been shown to not work with all titles recently. Specifically that process failed on The Grudge2 and Saw3. DVD Shrink was still not able to open the file after FixVTS was run.

You caught something I missed. I overlooked it was ripped using the AnyDVD ripper in which case FixVTS doesn't seem to work for reasons that only jeanl and James could possibly know. My bad on missing that key part. Oops. :doh:

IMO, this new protection version sucks as it's completely screwing with the DVD structure to make it a very non-compliant disc. This should be frowned upon. There are stand alone players that have issues with these discs. One could correctly call them defective.

I couldn't agree more.

 

[SamuriHL]

You caught something I missed. I overlooked it was ripped using the AnyDVD ripper in which case FixVTS doesn't seem to work for reasons that only jeanl and James could possibly know. My bad on missing that key part. Oops. :doh:

It MAY work on some titles, but, I've had it fail on Saw3. I didn't bother trying it on Casino Royale. I suppose I could at some point but meh. I got a working backup so I don't really care to try. VobBlanker is working spectacularly for me. I also learned a few new tricks with it today that I wasn't aware of. (autoblanking titles below 85% of the size of the main movie, for instance...VERY KUEL!) For Shrink users looking for a free method to keep using AnyDVD, VobBlanker's latest beta is a God send.

 

[DrinkLyeAndDie]

It MAY work on some titles, but, I've had it fail on Saw3. I didn't bother trying it on Casino Royale. I suppose I could at some point but meh. I got a working backup so I don't really care to try.

True... it won't always fail because FixVTS isn't really always needed except with the new mangled garbage we're being fed. I still run every rip through it, though. If the VOBs are fine then it's a quick enough process where it's no big deal.

VobBlanker is working spectacularly for me. I also learned a few new tricks with it today that I wasn't aware of. (autoblanking titles below 85% of the size of the main movie, for instance...VERY KUEL!)

Nice tip. Thanks!

For Shrink users looking for a free method to keep using AnyDVD, VobBlanker's latest beta is a God send.

I never used VobBlanker until recently. Honestly, I thought it was too complicated so I had never tried to use it. Now that I've had some experience it's really actually easy to use and no more FBI warnings that Sony likes to hide!

 

[SamuriHL]

True... it won't always fail because FixVTS isn't really always needed except with the new mangled garbage we're being fed. I still run every rip through it, though. If the VOBs are fine then it's a quick enough process where it's no big deal.

I may start automagically adding this to my ripping process. SIGH. It can't hurt. Of course, if I had just ripped it with VobBlanker I wouldn't have had this problem, but, the damn thing had a lot of extras and previews and it was easier to deal with that in CloneDVD at the time.

I never used VobBlanker until recently. Honestly, I thought it was too complicated so I had never tried to use it. Now that I've had some experience it's really actually easy to use and no more FBI warnings that Sony likes to hide!

Yea, I was very reluctant at first, too. But, it's vastly improved in the latest beta to make it easier to use and it works REALLY well. There's another tip that MBK gave me that I like, too. If you want just the movie and FEW extras, use the blank all menu item. Then hit the main movie and whatever extras you want...it's quicker than trying to blank everything by hand depending on what you want to keep. I'm really starting to like it more and more.

 

[DrinkLyeAndDie]

I may start automagically adding this to my ripping process. SIGH. It can't hurt. Of course, if I had just ripped it with VobBlanker I wouldn't have had this problem, but, the damn thing had a lot of extras and previews and it was easier to deal with that in CloneDVD at the time.

LOL. Now you sound like me. That's why I usually rip to HDD with CloneDVD. Removing the main garbage is faster, IMO, with CloneDVD even if I end up throwing in an extra step. The work I [may] need to do with VobBlanker is now reduced by a LOT!

There's another tip that MBK gave me that I like, too. If you want just the movie and FEW extras, use the blank all menu item. Then hit the main movie and whatever extras you want...it's quicker than trying to blank everything by hand depending on what you want to keep.

Cool. Thanks for yet another tip.

 

[AL_Buckeye]

Either a bad original disc or your drive is incapable of reading it. Try cleaning it, and try again. Or exchange the disc for a good working one. You might want to try reading the disc in another drive as well.

The problem you're having has nothing to do with Clonedvd by the way.

As you can see here, Anydvd and Clonedvd have no problems with this title:
http://forum.slysoft.com/showpost.php?p=14702&postcount=1

Webslinger wrote:

Either a bad original disc or your drive is incapable of reading it. Try cleaning it, and try again. Or exchange the disc for a good working one. You might want to try reading the disc in another drive as well.

Tried original in both drives. Seems to work fine. Therefore issue doesn't appear to be a bad original or a drive issue. :disagree:

Webslinger wrote:

The problem you're having has nothing to do with Clonedvd by the way.

Not sure this is true. I appear to be having a driver conflict which is crashing my computer when using CloneDVD. See attached Microsoft Error Message. Has an AnyDVD driver changed from 6.1.0.2 to 6.1.3.3? I never had this problem with 6.1.0.2. As I said, I'm not sure that it is NOT a CloneDVD issue - then again I'm not sure that it IS either....

mmdavis wrote:

One thing I'd do is check the AnyDVD options.

Thanks, I looked into that, but the "Use CSS Key Archive" box was not checked, nor did anything else odd stand out.



Another interesting thing is that the AnyDVD Status window changed from my earlier post. It now reads:
"Summary for drive D: (AnyDVD 6.1.3.3)
LG DVD-ROM DRD8160B 1.01 H.L.D.S.2001/10/25
Drive (Hardware) Region: 1

Media is a DVD.
Booktype: dvd-rom (version 1), Layers: 2 (opposite)
Size of first Layer: 2084960 sectors (4072 MBytes)
Total size: 4169920 sectors (8144 MBytes)

Video DVD (or CD) label: Casino Royale
Media is CSS protected!
Video Standard: NTSC
Media is locked to region(s): 1!

Warning: .bup file location is wrong, .bup processing disabled!
RCE protection not found.
DVD structure appears to be correct.
Found & removed structural copy protection (Arccos, Puppetlock)!
Found & removed bogus title set!
Found & removed Autorun from Video DVD!
Found & removed 97 bad sector protections!
Emulating RPC-2 drive with region 1!"

This gave me hope as it resembles what others have posted. Unfortunately the computer crashes when I get to the 3rd screen of DVDClone when trying to clone the disk. I also tried to just Copy DVD Titles - same result. :doh:

AnyDVD 6.1.3.3 has some stability issues - at least on my computer.... Would REALLY, REALLY appreciate some help.... I contacted Slysoft Help a couple weeks ago for the same issue:

Subject: CloneDVD Support (en ticket 1173509595)
Sent: Sat 3/10/2007 12:53 AM
"-------------------------------------------------
Customer:
E-Mail :
RegKey : 11618899

Product : CloneDVD
Version : 2.9.0.3
OS : Windows XP Home
Drive(s): SONY DVD RW AW-Q170A Region 1
Title(s): None in particular
-------------------------------------------------

I just purchased and installed a new DVD Burner as listed in
the field above. Ever since installing this drive, every
time I try to use CloneDVD2 to copy a DVD, the computer
crashes on the 3rd CloneDVD2 Screen (where you select temp
file location etc....) The only other change made to the
computer since the previous successful use of CloneDVD2 was
the updating of AnyDVD to the 6.1.3.0 version. My question
is will uninstalling CloneDVD2 and AnyDVD 6.1.3.0 (serial
#11618900) and reinstalling them correct this problem?"

But haven't heard anything back from them....

BTW - I reinstalled my older Sony Drive and problem continued. Unistalled AnyDVD 6.1.3.0 and reinstalled 6.1.0.2 and the crashing problem went away. BUT, I NEED to be able to use the updated versions to back up more recently released DVDs that I purchase. Help.

Sorry if this post is too long, but I'm trying to give all the information I can on the problem...

AL_Buckeye

 

[Webslinger]

Tried original in both drives. Seems to work fine. Therefore issue doesn't appear to be a bad original or a drive issue.

A disc playing fine does not preclude it from also being faulty in some manner. In fact, this situation is quite common.

Not sure this is true. I appear to be having a driver conflict which is crashing my computer when using CloneDVD.

This is most likely a result of Clonedvd trying to deal with a disc that's causing Anydvd to say "Warning: .bup file location is wrong, .bup processing disabled!" Again, you can mostly likely toss Clonedvd out the equation when you're troubleshooting in this case.

Does this situation happen with most commercial dvds you try--or just this one?

If the answer is every disc, then please follow these steps:

1. Exit out of all Slysoft programs and reinstall

a) Keep your license key file backed up safely
b) Uninstall Anydvd (start-->all programs-->Slysoft--->Anydvd-->Uninstall)
c) Reboot
d) Download Anydvd http://static.slysoft.com/SetupAnyDVD.exe
e) Exit all Slysoft programs (including Anydvd, Clonedvd2, Clonecd, Clonecdtray, Clonedvdmobile, etc.). Check Windows Task Manager if you have to.
f) At this point disable your antivirus and firewall programs
g) Reinstall
h) Reboot
i) Install your license key (if required) http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=732
j) At this point enable your antivirus and firewall programs

If that doesn't work go on to step 2.

2. Read http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=1307 fully

3. Click this
Do what it says to do.

4.
Click Start, Run
type regedit

Go to
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Current Control Set\Control\Class\{4D36E965-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}

Check the values in "LowerFilters" and "UpperFilters". List everything there in your next post.

Before you do this visit http://www.cdr-zone.com/forum/about4719.html, and read the first post please, so you can get a better understanding of what is going on.

 

[Webslinger]

Also, can you stick the movie in your burner and give me Anydvd's status screen as well please? Thanks

 

[AL_Buckeye]

Thanks for ALL your help Webslinger .... Just needed to dig deeper into the forum for the answer (which just happened to be one of your posts!)

The problem was in fact ATA/ATAPI controller driver! Followed the instructions to get rid of the intel... drivers and replace with standard dual channel driver. Worked like a charm! Sorry for bothering you all with a problem that has been solved already and I was too much a Noob to find it earlier.

BTW - No problems backing up Casino Royale just did it and it worked fine.

Thanks a ton!

AL_Buckeye

 

[Webslinger]

The problem was in fact ATA/ATAPI controller driver! Followed the instructions to get rid of the intel... drivers and replace with standard dual channel driver. Worked like a charm!

You're very welcome! That's actually step 3 from three posts above this one.

Anyway, I'm glad everything is working for you now. :clap:

 

[waxman]

LOL. Now you sound like me. That's why I usually rip to HDD with CloneDVD. Removing the main garbage is faster, IMO, with CloneDVD even if I end up throwing in an extra step. The work I [may] need to do with VobBlanker is now reduced by a LOT!

DrinkLyeAndDie, would you be willing to post your whole process for "backing" up a movie? I am very interested to see how you do it. Thanks.

 

[SamuriHL]

DrinkLyeAndDie, would you be willing to post your whole process for "backing" up a movie? I am very interested to see how you do it. Thanks.

I'll post it to see what kind of student I've become for his dark arts. He will most definitely correct me if I get this wrong which is what I want.

First, he'll rip using CloneDVD2 in DL mode so that he can remove titlesets that he doesn't want (previews, warnings, logos, whatever) and get the movie onto the hard drive.

Second he'll run FixVTS against that, processing the entire disc in place. This will clean up the DVD structure.

Third(optional) he will run VobBlanker and blank out any additional things that CloneDVD2 was not able to remove...I.E. embedded logos, warnings, etc.

Fourth compress with program of choice. Since you have a COMPLETELY compliant DVD structure to work with, you can use CloneDVD2, DVD Shrink, Recode, DVD-RB, etc to compress with. The choice is yours.

And finally, burn. I'm not sure what his preference is here, but, mine is IMGBurn lately as it does a fantastic job and I've yet to encounter any problems at all reading back any of my backups on any of my drives and stand alone players. Since it's freeware it doesn't hurt to give it a shot.

That's it. A lot of work, but, an exceptional backup in the end. DLaD...feel free to make any corrections necessary.

 

[DrinkLyeAndDie]

I'll post it to see what kind of student I've become for his dark arts. He will most definitely correct me if I get this wrong which is what I want.

First, he'll rip using CloneDVD2 in DL mode so that he can remove titlesets that he doesn't want (previews, warnings, logos, whatever) and get the movie onto the hard drive.

Using DL mode depends on the movie. I nearly always compress all my movies to DVD-5 in the end and the savings I get using VobBlanker [see further down in the post where SamuriHL mentions it] aren't worth ripping as a DL to my HDD.

Second he'll run FixVTS against that, processing the entire disc in place. This will clean up the DVD structure.

I always do this step, period. It takes all of 5 minutes or so even if it isn't needed but when it is needed it's priceless!

Third(optional) he will run VobBlanker and blank out any additional things that CloneDVD2 was not able to remove...I.E. embedded logos, warnings, etc.

For this step I already know if I will even need because I check the DVD before I've even ripped it. As noted, yes, totally optional and sometimes not even needed. It all depends on who released the DVD.

Fourth compress with program of choice. Since you have a COMPLETELY compliant DVD structure to work with, you can use CloneDVD2, DVD Shrink, Recode, DVD-RB, etc to compress with. The choice is yours.

I use CloneDVD 99% of the time and Recode the rest. It depends on the movie. One movie in particular just didn't look right when I compressed with CloneDVD so I used Recode and it definitely looked better.

For anyone curious as to the movie it was Sex Traffic [produced by Granada Television & Big Motion Pictures and Co-produced by Channel 4 and CBC Corp] and is a 180 minute movie on a single DVD. It's a two-part mini-series - 1.5 hrs per episode - with both parts on the DVD plus for each episode there are two versions with one version having commentary so space is wasted. We're talking 6 hrs of video on the DVD. Ugh. The entire space used on the DL DVD is 7899 MB and there are no worthless trailers or other junk. I did remove the commentary titles in my backup, however. Shockingly depressing movie and a hell of an eye-opener. Definitely not for kids or those weak of heart when it comes to portrayals of the depravity of humanity. Amazingly well done and Anamaria Marinca is superb in her role for which she won numerous awards.

And finally, burn. I'm not sure what his preference is here, but, mine is IMGBurn lately as it does a fantastic job and I've yet to encounter any problems at all reading back any of my backups on any of my drives and stand alone players. Since it's freeware it doesn't hurt to give it a shot.

I use Ahead Nero Burning ROM Ultra 7. I use 16x DVD+Rs and burn at 12x with verification turned on. The reason I don't use CloneDVD to burn is the lack of verification when the burn is complete.

That's it. A lot of work, but, an exceptional backup in the end. DLaD...feel free to make any corrections necessary.

You summed it up perfectly. I just threw in a few comments.