Cannot create an ISO image for the 3D feature

Discussion in 'Issues and Bugs' started by GiorgioV, Sep 5, 2017.

  1. GiorgioV

    GiorgioV Member

    Hello.

    I have been trying to rip a 3D blu-ray to ISO, in order to remove those damn french subs.
    If I create a 1:1 copy, I'll get a 50GB file, with all in it. But if I try to rip everything leaving only the subs out, I'm not able to select the 3D film: it won't even show in the "select" window. And if I select all, the expected file won’t even be 20GB.

    Why is that? I just don't get it. I don't have (no do I need) a 3D monitor, but I do not believe it to be the cause.

    Thanks for the help.
     
  2. Adbear

    Adbear Well-Known Member

    CloneBD doesn't support altering 3D Blu-ray yet only as a full 1:1 disc or as MKV
     
  3. Ch3vr0n

    Ch3vr0n Translator NL & Mod

    CloneBD doesn't support 3d as full disc either. ONLY as portable file (mkv/mp4)

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  4. Adbear

    Adbear Well-Known Member

    Are you sure about that? Just made a 1:1 ISO of a 3D disc I have and it comes across with the SSIF folder and when mounted CloneBD flags the video files as 3D and allows me to make a 3D MKV from the copy.

    As it's a 1:1 with no compression I wouldn't expect it to alter anything on the image
     
  5. Ch3vr0n

    Ch3vr0n Translator NL & Mod

    Well maybe I'm wrong, I don't do 1:1's in any form. A couple weeks ago I sent a pm to Pete about 3d support and the answer was 'still working on it'. Hence the response. I do believe though that bd25 3d definitely isn't supported yet.

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  6. Adbear

    Adbear Well-Known Member

    I agree, any form of compression or altering of the disc renders it back to 2D, but 1:1 is just the same as using AnyDVD to rip to image
     
  7. GiorgioV

    GiorgioV Member

    Wow. Some sad news. Thank you for the info, though.
     
  8. GiorgioV

    GiorgioV Member

    I have been trying to create an MKV 3D file with CloneBD, but how can I do that if I cannot select the 3D version of the movie? (both 2D and 3D versions are on the same disc, but CloneBD seems to be showing only the 2D version).
     
  9. Adbear

    Adbear Well-Known Member

  10. Pete

    Pete Forum Admin Staff Member

    There was a version of CloneBD that mistakenly hid either the 2D or the 3D version if playlists for both exist independently.
    That was recently fixed - do you maybe not have the latest version? (1.1.6.1)

    If you do, please post an AnyDVD log file for that particular disc.
     
  11. GiorgioV

    GiorgioV Member

    In these two screenshots you can see what I see.
    Is it normal that it only shows me one movie? I can see the "3D" in the preview, but how can it be possible that the estimated file size for the movie as shown (without compression) is just a little over 14GB (the disc is over 50GB)? The other content on the disc is very small stuff.

    p.s. I have version 1.1.6.0, the last downloadable one
     

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  12. Pete

    Pete Forum Admin Staff Member

    v1.1.6.1 is also downloadable from here: https://forum.redfox.bz/threads/clonebd-1-1-6-1-beta.73400/

    I can't answer that from just a screen shot, that's why I asked for an AnyDVD log file.

    On that second screenshot I can see that "2D" is preselected, but can't you simply select an appropriate format from the dropdown list "Formato 3D"?

    (BTW: when uploading screenshots here, you can simply upload them as is and have them displayed inline in your posts, that's a lot easier for the readers to look at, than first having to download and unzip them)
     
  13. GiorgioV

    GiorgioV Member

    Sorry, had to leave for a while. I'm enclosing the log file. As for the screenshots, I was under the impression I could only upload a single file, hence the .zip. Sorry about that too, and thank you for your help.
     

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  14. Ch3vr0n

    Ch3vr0n Translator NL & Mod

    As pete said, there was a version that "hid" the 3D stream. See if updating to CLBD 1161 works for you first.
     
  15. GiorgioV

    GiorgioV Member

    Done. Do I have to choose the MVC option for the 3D format? I'm not sure MVC was there, before I upgraded to 1161. If I use that format, with lossless audio (only the English track)/video, the file size becomes over 20GB, that would be more reasonable. Perhaps I should just give it a try and see.
     
  16. Ch3vr0n

    Ch3vr0n Translator NL & Mod

    MVC is frame-packed like on the original disc (full 1080p image). SBS or OU give 1080p view as well but are either half-height or half-width depending on what you pick and 2 (near) identical images are side-by-side or over and under each other (hence the naming).

    Lossless audio has zero impact on that. But naturally 'lossless' means uncompressed and thus the original audio (in every way, including the size of the audio track).

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  17. GiorgioV

    GiorgioV Member

    I've encoded the file as MKV MVC. If I play the file on my pc it looks like an ordinary 2D clip, so I guess it did not work after all.
    Anyway, these are the video specs.


    General
    Unique ID : 37465447444643347144956733180533141424 (0x1C2F952C9231596BD1673902A8A1EFB0)
    Complete name : D:\Temp\Dark Country - Film principale.mkv
    Format : Matroska
    Format version : Version 4 / Version 2
    File size : 16.9 GiB
    Duration : 1h 28mn
    Overall bit rate mode : Variable
    Overall bit rate : 27.5 Mbps
    Movie name : Film principale
    Writing library : Lavf57.3.100

    Video
    ID : 1
    Format : AVC
    Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
    Format profile : Stereo High@L4.1 / High@L4.1
    MultiView_Count : 2
    MultiView_Layout : Both Eyes laced in one block (left eye first)
    Format settings, CABAC : Yes
    Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames
    Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
    Duration : 1h 28mn
    Bit rate mode : Variable
    Bit rate : 24.7 Mbps
    Maximum bit rate : 26.0 Mbps
    Width : 1 920 pixels
    Height : 1 080 pixels
    Display aspect ratio : 16:9
    Frame rate mode : Constant
    Frame rate : 23.976 fps
    Standard : NTSC
    Color space : YUV
    Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
    Bit depth : 8 bits
    Scan type : Progressive
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.496
    Stream size : 15.2 GiB (90%)
    Default : Yes
    Forced : No
    Color primaries : BT.709
    Transfer characteristics : BT.709
    Matrix coefficients : BT.709
     
  18. Ch3vr0n

    Ch3vr0n Translator NL & Mod

    It works just fine. That's what frame packed is supposed to do. VLC is just a basic video player. Try MPC-HC, PowerDVD should definitely be able to play it. Not every player understands frame-packed images.
     
  19. GiorgioV

    GiorgioV Member

    I've just purchased a Mede8er MED600X3D, I'll test the file later with that one. Thanks.
     
  20. GiorgioV

    GiorgioV Member

    As it turns out, the MKV MVC file encoded by CloneBD was not a 3D one.
    I've played it with the MED600X3D, and the magic didn't happen. So, I'm at a loss as to how to generate a high quality 3D file with CloneBD.

    On a positive note, I've also run the 1:1 ISO through the player, it went straight to 3D (beautiful) and it did let me turn the subtitles off (and those were forced French subtitles). Although I believe that is the player's merit, not the software.
    Great movie, btw, for those interested :-D
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