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Burned discs not reqognised in DVD player

Discussion in 'CloneDVD' started by Samwel, May 23, 2007.

  1. Samwel

    Samwel Member

    After I upgraded my CPU and motherboard and reinstalled
    Windows XP Pro SP2 I can't get AnyDVD+CloneDVD to burn
    discs that are reqognised as DVD discs in my DVD players.
    The player just scans the disc for a long while then return
    NO DISC in the display.

    Why is that? Every setting is the same in AnyDVD and
    mostly the same in Windows. Everything has always
    worked fine until lately. The discs work fine in Windows

    Burned discs tried in two Pioneer DVD players both with
    same result.
  2. customshopkv1

    customshopkv1 Well-Known Member

    Could be media or book type. We need some more info, like media type, hardware and so on.
  3. Webslinger

    Webslinger Retired Moderator

    1. Update your burner's firmware (if available)
    2. Use good quality media (Memorex, Ritek, Princo, Fuji, TDK from Costco, and Maxell that are not made in Japan are not good quality media)
    If you use poor quality blank media, then you should expect problems.
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    3. Try lowering your burn speed (not below 4x; if you have a 16x burner and 16x rated media try writing to it at 12x instead of 16x)
    4. If you're using +R, +RW, or +R DL media, change the booktype to "dvd-rom"
    http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=476 (step 3)
    5. Avoid sticker labels (they tend to cause problems)
    6. Try setting a custom size of 4300 in Clonedvd (but if you're using good media, you shouldn't have to) if you're using regular single layer dvd-5 (4.7GB) discs.

    Bad burn quality is notorious around the end of discs (see step 6)
    and also at layer breaks when using low quality DL media (use Verbatim +R DL media, and change the booktype to "dvd-rom)
  4. Samwel

    Samwel Member

    1. NEC ND-3551A Firmware 2.02 (latest)

    2. I use great HQ media, Infiniti Samurai DVD-R 16x which I have used before on the same burner with success. But with a earlier version of AnyDVD installed.

    3. I have a 16x burner and have successfully burned at 12x before (never tested 16x). Although I normally use 8x (as with these failed discs). The burner is connected to a IDE master channel as the sole device (i.e. no slave connected to the same cable).

    4. I used DVD-R in this case. I usually use all kinds of formats and have never before had any problem.
    How do I change booktype?

    5. I never use sticker labels. I have a DVD marker pen or printable discs.

    6. I have never needed to change that before. As I said before there's nothing wrong with the actual burn. The copy plays perfectly in Windows through a media player.
    It's just that my two Pioneer DVD players don't reqognise my copies as DVD discs.

    Abit AW9D-Max, Core2Duo E6600 2.4GHz, 2GB RAM, Radeon 1950PRO, Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS, 3x Seagate 250GB SATA harddrives, 1x Hitachi SATA 250GB, NEC ND-3551A DVD burner (supports all formats except DVD-RAM), Windows XP Professional SP2.
    I was using the latest released (not beta) AnyDVD and CloneDVD.
    I used Infiniti Samurai DVD-R 16x media.

    Anything else you need?
    I will try to do some testing with other types like DVD+R and see if it's just these discs or a general fault.
  5. Webslinger

    Webslinger Retired Moderator

    Does that stuff code out as MCC-004-00?

    Again, I would try some of the stuff I listed instead. Try some Taiyo Yuden Premium discs.

    You only do that with +R media.

    What I listed by the way were guidelines--not questions.

    If your backups play in your computer, Clonedvd worked. You would then have what amounts to a compatibility between the blank media you're using and your standalone dvd players (your standalone dvd players don't like the blank media you're using).

    Anydvd, regardless of version number, has absolutely nothing to do with burn quality.
    Last edited: May 24, 2007
  6. Samwel

    Samwel Member

    Just tested a Infiniti Samurai DVD+R 16x disc and it plays correctly on my Pioneer DVD player.

    I have burned before on this model of DVD-R discs so why won't they work anymore? Bad batch?
    Seems strange that Windows finds them just fine.
    The Pioneer DV-696S is also a DVD-R/RW supported player.
    DVD+R/RW is not officially supported but works anyway on these players.
  7. Webslinger

    Webslinger Retired Moderator

    Name brands often don't mean anything. It's possible they aren't the same discs. It's possible that company is using a new source for its discs than it did previously. You might want to check media codes.
    When you buy Verbatim 16x blank media you may end up Prodisc or CMC made discs for example.

    Regardless, there is a compatibility issue between the discs you are using now and your standalone dvd players. If they play fine in your computer, Clonedvd worked.

    I suggest, again, trying some Taiyo Yuden Premiums. At the very least, try some other blanks.

    Most will work, especially when the booktype is changed to "dvd-rom"

    If you would like to learn how to do this, read step 3
    Last edited: May 24, 2007
  8. Samwel

    Samwel Member

    Code out as MCC-004-00? How do I check that?

    I usually buy Verbatim discs (which are even listed by NEC as compatible) but I took a chance on these Infiniti due to good reviews. Both +R and -R burns have worked before with these discs types (with the difference that I bought another color (red) discs -R than last time (purple)).

    I will stick with Verbatim for NEC from now on. I know those work flawlessly on both + and - on Pioneer.

    I know they where guidelines :) I just checked each point with what I had done.

    Yes I know CloneDVD worked. But I can't understand why a disc type that has worked before doesn't anymore. Maybe I was a little (very?) unclear on that matter.

    Yes I also know AnyDVD doesn't effect quality. But I thought it best to mention that I used it because otherwise I would probably get a question if I used it. :p

    Thanks alot for your help anyway.

    Btw I just tried to burn to a Verbatim DVD-R 16x Printable and that disc worked fine in my Pioneer. So I guess it's the Infiniti DVD-R's that are not compatible with Pioneer. This batch anyway.
    Last edited: May 24, 2007
  9. Samwel

    Samwel Member

    I have never heard of or seen Taiyo Yuden Premium discs.
    But I will try to source some if possible.

    Thanks for the link. I will try that if I ever get another problem like this. I have never ever had a problem with +R discs though, and this is the first problem I have ever had with -R. I have burned on atleast 10 different brands together on both formats.

    Again thanks for the help. Very much appriciated. :bowdown:
    Last edited: May 24, 2007
  10. customshopkv1

    customshopkv1 Well-Known Member

    For Taiyo Yuden I buy from supermediastore.com.
  11. Webslinger

    Webslinger Retired Moderator

    Based on his choice of blank media, I suspect Samwel is somewhere in Europe.
  12. Webslinger

    Webslinger Retired Moderator

    Take a look at number 6

    They are usually a safe bet (with the exception of some PAP6 and MAP6 serials).

    Basically, I suspect, the reason is they probably aren't the same discs or that you came across some bad blanks. The manufacturing process for them may have changed slightly (this happens more often than people realize). Perhaps they aren't even made by the same factory any more.

    Even when you buy Verbatim, you may get discs made by Prodisc, CMC, or MBIL. So the name brand and label doesn't indicate you're getting the exact same discs each time.

    Spindle (or the blanks that you have) . . . "Batch" actually refers to an entire line of discs (all the thousands of similar serials). But I know what you mean.
    Last edited: May 24, 2007
  13. customshopkv1

    customshopkv1 Well-Known Member

    Sorry, I assumed most people are in the US or Canada. I should of asked.:bowdown: