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Blu-Ray Support

Interesting thread and I can obviously see the need for a Blu Ray product. I have to agree with James on this one though. I think HD-DVD has a LOT more going for it. Does that assure it will win? No. In fact, it is usually the crappy product that would win in the end. I am not saying Blu Ray is crappy, I just think it is inferior. In the end, it's all about content. Hopefully, Universal will step up to the plate and deliver.

Don't count Microsoft out either. I do also have a PC Blu Ray drive and own some of the movies I want that aren't on HD-DVD. AVC is clearly better then Mpeg 2 no matter how you spin it.

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Good discussion guys 8)

Im intending on getting a bluray burner and hd-dvd reader combo drive in one unit, like what LG are selling. Ideally I'd like to run one AnyDVD app that does DVD, HD-DVD and BluRay. :agree:

It is very unlikely the winner will be the format thats the most useable because the market is not driven by consumers wants about the formats useability - the studios supply it on their chosen format and do many things to make it hard for people to shift the content into different formats. This is why all of the proper research published so far I have seen has clearly shown BRD outselling HD-DVD by a factor of two to four. I am happy to consider any proper industry review showing different figures but I am honestly not aware of any such reviews. If the market was driven by who has the most user freindly platform HD-DVD would have already won the format war and would not now be significantly behind in sales next to Blu-Ray.

The reason for this in my view is that the studios see BRD as the more secure format that will better protect their content and their purse strings. Weve already seen one major studio do a major reshuffle of BRD releases this year for what in my opinion is to allow time for them to be mastered in BD+ now that AACS is defeated.

Its a suppliers market and the studios will continue to back what they perceive to be the most secure format.

Slysoft is uniquely positioned at this right time with the right set of capabilities to dominate the market for fair use enabling technologies with BRD. Otherwise by not doing your magic with BluRay your just going to loose sales to competitors.
 
Noticed at Best Buy today that they really advertise the "Blew Ray" :doh: stuff more then the HD DVD. They had 2 BR Players showing movies on 2 separate HDTV's and when I asked to see the HD DVD setup, I was told they did not have one.

I did manage to speak with a Geek Squad guy who told me that the porn industry has a big say-so in who wins this war and they are supporting HD DVD. When I asked him why Best Buy does not have a HD DVD display to show support for it, he said they should have one, but dont atm.

Just something I noticed today and figured I would pass along. Maybe more of us should start pushing the HD DVD stuff when we are at the stores?? :agree:
 
I did manage to speak with a Geek Squad guy who told me that the porn industry has a big say-so in who wins this war and they are supporting HD DVD.

From what I read some time ago the Blu-Ray camp never responded to the porn industry while the HD-DVD camp did. Hence the backing of HD-DVD by the porn industry at this point. And then later, I guess, the BR camp just said no XXX movies, period.

If the BR camp is anti-porn then, personally, I think they deserve to fail. Regardless of one's opinion on whether porn is good or not I do not like the industry deciding what I can and can not find. It's bad enough that they put so many restrictions and limitations on this but now they're going beyond being annoying. When did they become the moral police?
 
From what I read some time ago the Blu-Ray camp never responded to the porn industry while the HD-DVD camp did. Hence the backing of HD-DVD by the porn industry at this point. And then later, I guess, the BR camp just said no XXX movies, period.

If the BR camp is anti-porn then, personally, I think they deserve to fail. Regardless of one's opinion on whether porn is good or not I do not like the industry deciding what I can and can not find. It's bad enough that they put so many restrictions and limitations on this but now they're going beyond being annoying. When did they become the moral police?
I share the same opinion as you.
 
From what I read some time ago the Blu-Ray camp never responded to the porn industry while the HD-DVD camp did. Hence the backing of HD-DVD by the porn industry at this point. And then later, I guess, the BR camp just said no XXX movies, period.

If the BR camp is anti-porn then, personally, I think they deserve to fail. Regardless of one's opinion on whether porn is good or not I do not like the industry deciding what I can and can not find. It's bad enough that they put so many restrictions and limitations on this but now they're going beyond being annoying. When did they become the moral police?

Vivid has actually talked a BDR manufacturer into making their discs. They are going to be releasing Debbie Does Dallas (Two) on HD-DVD and BDR.
 
Vivid has actually talked a BDR manufacturer into making their discs. They are going to be releasing Debbie Does Dallas (Two) on HD-DVD and BDR.

Good find Androo79. Now I guess we can all rest assured that there will be porn on BR and get on to the main subject which is the need to support both formats! For a moment there I was certain that HD-DVD was the winner due to support from the porn industry!! Anyway as far as Slinger07´s comment regarding product placement as I mentioned before this is true for both Best Buy, Circuit City PC Richards and other major electronic chains in the Northeast. Unfortunately HD-DVD is starting to give me the feeling that DIVX gave me about a week after it was released by CC, a feeling that there is no way it would last long. I really hope I am wrong because if both formats are around users will only gain in terms of both software as well as hardware pricing not to mention product quality.
 
For a moment there I was certain that HD-DVD was the winner due to support from the porn industry!!

Not that I care that much, but there's porn on Blu-Ray in Japan already. I think what format is being supported by porn might be a little more regional in nature . . .
 
Not that I care that much, but there's porn on Blu-Ray in Japan already. I think what format is being supported by porn might be a little more regional in nature . . .

Webslinger I was just kidding. I seriously doubt this ¨issue¨ will have any effect on how these formats fare.
 
Webslinger I was just kidding. I seriously doubt this ¨issue¨ will have any effect on how these formats fare.

Well, I do think the success of the format has a huge role in support being added to AnyDVD HD. You may disagree but I hardly think I pulled the thread off-topic. It does appear as Webslinger and Androo79 have written that that Blu-Ray has relaxed their stance.

As for your doubt that this will have any impact you may or may not be correct. One of the reasons VHS won over Betamax was porn. Now this doesn't necessarily mean porn will decide which format wins but it still might have an impact. It's said that VHS beat Betamax because VHS was more open and Betamax was Sony's little pet that they had control of. Well, their initial reaction to porn on Blu-Ray was a bad move on their part. If you want your format to be embraced by as many people as possible then you don't restrict a large source of media releases from using said format!

Anyway, my point in even bringing this up was that if Blu-Ray is very very stupid and doesn't think about the big picture they will ruin themselves. And, why spend the time on finding a way to get around the protections if it's a lame duck to begin with. Of course, it appears from press releases that they are planning on working on it.

Feel free to completely disregard my statements.
 
It does appear as Webslinger and Androo79 have written that that Blu-Ray has relaxed their stance.

I am going to type something that James would probably want to shoot me for typing: I don't care who wins--as long as someone wins soon(ish). This format war isn't helping me at all. /hides

That said, (and I do keep up on industry news and analysis), things don't look very good right now for HD-DVD. If HD-DVD wins that would make James' job a little easier, I think, so maybe I'll lean a little towards hoping HD-DVD wins (but I'm not going to cry at night if Blu-Ray wins either).
 
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However this can stand true, but this article is almost a year old and may not be the deciding factor, but then again it just may.

I have no idea. People argue strongly on both sides. I'm not sure I care much either, which is why I typed "/shrug".

Since this article was posted I want you to know that there is allot of HD-DVD's with porn on it due to the fact Soy said no to them earlier. So porn is on both formats if there are dvd's (bluray) from the porn industry.

Yep, there will likely be more porn on HD-DVD in North America. But Japan could be another story. It's full of PS3s there.
 
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I have no idea. People argue strongly on both sides. I'm not sure I care much either, which is why I typed "/shrug".



Yep, there will likely be more porn on HD-DVD in North America. But Japan could be another story.

Sorry web wasn't trying to make a mockery out of you. Just my 2¢. :D

I tend to stay away from these threads as there is too much fanboys and bashing.
 
That's ok, my girlfriend does a good job of it. You might as well make fun of me too. :D



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Is that better then? :D
 
The point is this.

Blu-ray burners are available.
And it is possible to rip/burn a bluray movie onto a single layer BD-R.

There are no HD-DVD burners.
When they do come out, you will need DOUBLE layer discs to burn movies.

Whatever way you put it. Blu-ray's 50GB beats HD-DVD's 30GB.

Some of the movies already take 27GB on hddvd.
Now what is going to happen when a very long movie (eg. lord of the rings) is put on a HD-DVD. They are going to lower the bitrate to make it fit in 30GB.


HD-DVD has some good advantages which i like.
Can burn HVDVD_TS folders onto standard dvd disc and play in hd.
Can burn VIDEO_TS folders onto hddvd disc for more storage of SD video.
No bullsh*t with blu-rays BDMV BDAV folders and not playing home burned media.
 
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